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Subject: Re: AMD's new 64-bit

Author: leonid

Date: 04:54:03 10/21/03

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On October 21, 2003 at 02:51:17, Gerd Isenberg wrote:

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>>It is true that fact of having 16 registers instead of 8 do help but it is still
>>not that rosy 128 that we have on Intel's 64 bits. Could those 16 registers on
>>AMD be helped by some additional and quick usage of registers from coprocessor,
>>like in Intel's MMX version?
>>
>>Leonid.
>
>Yes.
>
>AMD64 has three register files with own instruction sets
>and decode/execute units:
>1. 16 64-bit general purpose registers rax,..,rdi, r08..r15
>2. 16 128-bit XMM registers for SSE/SSE2
>   (SIMD Streaming Extensions)
>3. 8 64-bit MMX registers (shared with x87)
>
>SSE(2) and MMX share the same three fp execution units.
>SSE(2) becomes default fp-unit with windows for AMD64.
>Unfortenately MMX (x87) is not saved/restore in 64-bit mode context switch.
>
>There are SSE(2) integer instructions, for vectors of 8/16/32/64 bits.
>They are nice to do some independent branchless instructions chains, e.g. with
>pairs of bitboards.
>
>Moving gp <-> xmm/mmx should be avoided, due to slow vector path instructions
>movq. Using memory for that porpose is also critical, AMD suggests padding about
>10 other instructions between 64-bit store and 2*32-bit loads or vice versa.
>
>MSC has intrinsic datatypes (__m128i) and functions to use SSE2 without
>assembler (No inline assembler anymore).

Thanks You very much, since You responded just to what I wanted to know!

Now I hope only one thing that those 64 bits will become at reach of average
people like me and soon. It will be real fun to start there almost everything
from scratch and play with new Assembler. I hope also that all this strange
differentiation between all kind of memory will become absolete or greatly
simplified.

Leonid.




>Gerd
>
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