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Subject: Re: Comet B62 only weakness is it Opening or bad Opening Book !

Author: Tony Werten

Date: 05:36:50 10/21/03

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On October 21, 2003 at 08:31:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:

>On October 21, 2003 at 08:24:14, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On October 21, 2003 at 03:55:36, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>You can create a Directory in: C:\Program Files\Arena\Engines\GM-Book
>>>
>>>1st. To load it simply select Engines=>Tournament=>Options then under starting
>>>position: Load from PGN/EPD file, choose randomly
>>>
>>>2nd. Then under File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Engines\GM-Book\GM2001.pgn
>>>
>>>Have fun with this GM Opening Book it could be used to test the strength of two
>>>engines :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>PS: You can download it in http://www.playwitharena.com
>>>
>>>After 20 games using this GM Opening Book by Olivier which are taken from Games
>>>played by human GMs, Comet B62 is leading Ruffian 1.0.5 by a small margin which
>>>clearly indicate that Comet B62 is very strong in the Midlegame and ending
>>>stages.
>>
>>Did you check the games ? It seems that in quite a few games, one engine comes
>>out of the book lost. ( Or maybe I understand it wrong )
>>
>>Tony
>
>Yes, but if you check all the games played by the SSDF or any other two engines,
>there is always one side that stand better at the end of the Opening, but at
>least we know that these Openings were NOT made by chess Playes rated less than
>2600 :-)

That's not the point. You force engines to follow a bookline for over 45 moves,
then sometimes the first move out of book is a resign. What's the point if the
program didn't have any choice before ( and neither did the opponent) ?

Tony

>
>Pichard
>>
>>>
>>...
>>>35.Bf5 Bc6 36.d7 Rf8 37.Rd4 Rd8 {-4.05/19} 38.Kd6 {4.05/12} Bxd7 {-4.05/17}
>>>39.Bxd7
>>>{3.96/13} Ra8 {-4.10/14} 40.Ra4 {4.18/12} a5 {-4.03/16} 41.Bc6 {4.33/12} Ra7
>>>{-4.04/16}
>>>42.Kc5 {4.49/12} Kf6 {-4.16/16} 43.Kb6 {4.56/12} Rg7 {-4.84/18} 44.Rxa5
>>>{4.68/12} g4
>>>{-5.25/18} 45.Rd5 {4.89/12} g3 {-5.57/17} 46.Rd1 {4.98/12} Rg4 {-5.35/15} 47.Rg1
>>>{5.14/11}
>>>Ke5 {-5.58/17} 48.a4 {5.13/12} Rb4+ {-6.04/17} 49.Kc7 {5.50/12} Rb3 {-6.05/16}
>>>50.Ra1 {5.52/12} Rb4 {-6.52/16} 51.a5 {5.52/11} Rg4 {-8.32/17}  {Black resigns}
>>>1-0
>>>
>>...
>>>Kb4 44.Rh8 g6 45.Rh7 c6 46.Rc7 Be4 47.h3 Kxc4 48.g4 hxg4 49.hxg4 c5 50.Kd2 b5
>>>51.Rf7 Bc3+ 52.Ke3 Bb1 53.f5 gxf5 54.g5 b4 55.g6 f4+ 56.Rxf4+ Bd4+ 57.Kd2
>>>{-6.53/21}
>>>Bxg6 {4.68/11} 58.Rf8 {-6.58/18} Bb1 {5.34/11} 59.Ra8 {-7.40/20} Bb2 {7.25/11}
>>>60.Ra7 {-8.97/20}  {White resigns} 0-1
>>>
>>...
>>>Kb4 44.Rh8 g6 45.Rh7 c6 46.Rc7 Be4 47.h3 Kxc4 48.g4 hxg4 49.hxg4 c5 50.Kd2 b5
>>>51.Rf7 Bc3+ 52.Ke3 Bb1 53.f5 gxf5 54.g5 b4 55.g6 f4+ 56.Rxf4+ Bd4+ 57.Kd2
>>>{-4.80/12}
>>>Bxg6 {5.66/14} 58.Rf1 {-4.83/12} Be4 {6.03/16} 59.Kc1 {-5.01/11} Be3+ {6.89/15}
>>>60.Kb2 {-6.18/11} Kd3 {7.48/15} 61.Rd1+ {-6.17/11} Ke2 {12.56/18} 62.Rd8
>>>{-5.91/11} c4
>>>{12.70/16} 63.Re8 {-6.75/11} Bf5 {12.96/15} 64.a4 {-7.86/11} c3+ {M12/12} 65.Kb3
>>>{-19.04/12}  {White resigns} 0-1
>>>
>>...
>>>36.h4 Ne6 37.Ne4 Qe7 38.g5 Nf4 39.gxh6 Bxh6 40.Qg3 Qe6 41.Kh2 d5 42.Ng5 Bxg5
>>>43.hxg5
>>>Re7 44.Rc2 Qf5 45.Rf2 {-12.31/16}  {White resigns} 0-1
>>>
>>...
>>>36.h4 Ne6 37.Ne4 Qe7 38.g5 Nf4 39.gxh6 Bxh6 40.Qg3 Qe6 41.Kh2 d5 42.Ng5 Bxg5
>>>43.hxg5
>>>Re7 44.Rc2 Qf5 45.Rf2 {-11.61/10} Rh7+ {11.29/12} 46.Kg1 {-13.23/11} Qe4
>>>{12.66/13}
>>>47.Qf3 {-13.26/11}  {White resigns} 0-1
>>>
>>...
>>>52.h5 b5 53.axb5 c4 54.bxc4 a4 55.Re2 Bb4 56.Rb2 Bc3 57.Rc2 Bh8 58.Ra2 Ra8
>>>59.Nf7 Bc3
>>>60.h6 Ke7 61.Ne5 a3 62.h7 Bb2 63.c5 {7.37/15} Re8 {-7.92/11} 64.b6 {7.76/14}
>>>cxb6
>>>{-8.81/13} 65.d6+ {8.22/15} Ke6 {-10.41/13}  {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>
>>...
>>>52.h5 b5 53.axb5 c4 54.bxc4 a4 55.Re2 Bb4 56.Rb2 Bc3 57.Rc2 Bh8 58.Ra2 Ra8
>>>59.Nf7 Bc3
>>>60.h6 Ke7 61.Ne5 a3 62.h7 Bb2 63.c5 {8.43/11} Re8 {-8.12/17}  {Black resigns}
>>>1-0
>>>
>>...
>>>Kg7 44.b4 Kf6 45.a5 bxa5 46.bxa5 Kg7 47.Kb4 Kf6 48.Kc5 Kg7 49.Be2 Rde8 50.Rxe8
>>>Rxe8
>>>51.Bf3 Re1 {-5.91/12} 52.Bxd5 {7.37/15} Ra1 {-6.77/12} 53.Rxf7+ {8.42/14} Kh6
>>>{-7.98/13} 54.Be4 {8.49/14} Re1 {-9.47/13}  {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>
>>...
>>>Kg7 44.b4 Kf6 45.a5 bxa5 46.bxa5 Kg7 47.Kb4 Kf6 48.Kc5 Kg7 49.Be2 Rde8 50.Rxe8
>>>Rxe8
>>>51.Bf3 Kf6 {-6.70/19} 52.Bxd5 {6.60/13} Rf8 {-7.35/19} 53.Kb6 {7.56/13} Kg7
>>>{-7.47/17}
>>>54.Be6 {8.34/13} Rd8 {-8.02/17}  {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>



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