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Subject: Re: Rebel - IsiChess: Some notes

Author: Gerd Isenberg

Date: 13:12:10 10/21/03

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On October 21, 2003 at 14:21:59, Peter Berger wrote:

>On October 21, 2003 at 14:04:28, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>
>>On October 21, 2003 at 13:08:18, Dann Corbit wrote:
>>
>>>On October 21, 2003 at 04:49:45, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>>
>>>>Thanks for your effort, Dann
>>>>
>>>>i believe Jeroen and Alex, that 16...b4 is already a loosing one.
>>>>May be Dan Wulff's (Gandalf's Book Author) approach, to throw out all book
>>>>lines, where after a short analyses absulute score is greater some threshold, is
>>>>practical to avoid such book lines at all.
>>>
>>>I remain unconvinced that 16 .. b4 loses.  Now, it might lose.  But I have not
>>>seen ANY convincing evidence that it does.
>>
>>I'm not sure - i still trust Jeroen's and Alex's competence and long year
>>experience. And i don't think that they are playing games with us by having some
>>"secret" refutation parat ;-)
>>
>>Ok, it always happend in the past, that some "dead" lines became playable again.
>>One "hole" in such lines may let programs miss the decisive key move due to some
>>very deep tactis with a rook or more less.
>>
>>Gerd
>
>Partly this is interesting on its own (finding out the truth about the
>position), partly because of the strong statements of the bookcooks (which makes
>it fun to prove them wrong). But when it is about the Rebel - IsiChess game
>itself, in the Uri Blass/Michael Drexel line as shown in
>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?322827, Rebel's last book move
>would have been 21. Rge1 and I think a draw would have been much more likely
>than a win for Rebel here. I'll try to see if Rebel 12 could win this against
>another strong amateur program at similar to Leiden time controls.
>
>Peter

Hi Peter,

interesting, thanks to point that out.
Now it's Alex's or Jeroen's turn, to show up some refutation
in Michael Drexel's game ;-)

Gerd



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