Author: Tony Werten
Date: 23:20:58 10/21/03
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On October 21, 2003 at 15:49:57, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>On October 21, 2003 at 08:36:50, Tony Werten wrote:
>
>>On October 21, 2003 at 08:31:27, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>
>>>On October 21, 2003 at 08:24:14, Tony Werten wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 21, 2003 at 03:55:36, Jorge Pichard wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>You can create a Directory in: C:\Program Files\Arena\Engines\GM-Book
>>>>>
>>>>>1st. To load it simply select Engines=>Tournament=>Options then under starting
>>>>>position: Load from PGN/EPD file, choose randomly
>>>>>
>>>>>2nd. Then under File: C:\Program Files\Arena\Engines\GM-Book\GM2001.pgn
>>>>>
>>>>>Have fun with this GM Opening Book it could be used to test the strength of two
>>>>>engines :-)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>PS: You can download it in http://www.playwitharena.com
>>>>>
>>>>>After 20 games using this GM Opening Book by Olivier which are taken from Games
>>>>>played by human GMs, Comet B62 is leading Ruffian 1.0.5 by a small margin which
>>>>>clearly indicate that Comet B62 is very strong in the Midlegame and ending
>>>>>stages.
>>>>
>>>>Did you check the games ? It seems that in quite a few games, one engine comes
>>>>out of the book lost. ( Or maybe I understand it wrong )
>>>>
>>>>Tony
>>>
>>>Yes, but if you check all the games played by the SSDF or any other two engines,
>>>there is always one side that stand better at the end of the Opening, but at
>>>least we know that these Openings were NOT made by chess Playes rated less than
>>>2600 :-)
>>
>>That's not the point. You force engines to follow a bookline for over 45 moves,
>>then sometimes the first move out of book is a resign. What's the point if the
>>program didn't have any choice before ( and neither did the opponent) ?
>>
>>Tony
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>
>
>You are wrong my friend at the beginning of the match I set it up to 20 games
>and then under the Option I chose repeat start position with colors switched, I
>didn't select any games The Arena GUI did automatically. And if you checked more
>carefully you will notice that game 1 and 2 and so 3 and 4 and so on but with
>colors reversed. Therefore, there was no advantage for either engine at all.
You don't get my point. If you put in 20 games that end decisive (either win or
draw), you can save a lot of processor time because the match will result with a
50% score anyway.
When there are 10 games that end decisive, and engine A normally always beats
engine B ( so scores 100%) it can now only score 75%.
Tony
>
>
>Pichard
>
>
>>>>...
>>>>>35.Bf5 Bc6 36.d7 Rf8 37.Rd4 Rd8 {-4.05/19} 38.Kd6 {4.05/12} Bxd7 {-4.05/17}
>>>>>39.Bxd7
>>>>>{3.96/13} Ra8 {-4.10/14} 40.Ra4 {4.18/12} a5 {-4.03/16} 41.Bc6 {4.33/12} Ra7
>>>>>{-4.04/16}
>>>>>42.Kc5 {4.49/12} Kf6 {-4.16/16} 43.Kb6 {4.56/12} Rg7 {-4.84/18} 44.Rxa5
>>>>>{4.68/12} g4
>>>>>{-5.25/18} 45.Rd5 {4.89/12} g3 {-5.57/17} 46.Rd1 {4.98/12} Rg4 {-5.35/15} 47.Rg1
>>>>>{5.14/11}
>>>>>Ke5 {-5.58/17} 48.a4 {5.13/12} Rb4+ {-6.04/17} 49.Kc7 {5.50/12} Rb3 {-6.05/16}
>>>>>50.Ra1 {5.52/12} Rb4 {-6.52/16} 51.a5 {5.52/11} Rg4 {-8.32/17} {Black resigns}
>>>>>1-0
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>Kb4 44.Rh8 g6 45.Rh7 c6 46.Rc7 Be4 47.h3 Kxc4 48.g4 hxg4 49.hxg4 c5 50.Kd2 b5
>>>>>51.Rf7 Bc3+ 52.Ke3 Bb1 53.f5 gxf5 54.g5 b4 55.g6 f4+ 56.Rxf4+ Bd4+ 57.Kd2
>>>>>{-6.53/21}
>>>>>Bxg6 {4.68/11} 58.Rf8 {-6.58/18} Bb1 {5.34/11} 59.Ra8 {-7.40/20} Bb2 {7.25/11}
>>>>>60.Ra7 {-8.97/20} {White resigns} 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>Kb4 44.Rh8 g6 45.Rh7 c6 46.Rc7 Be4 47.h3 Kxc4 48.g4 hxg4 49.hxg4 c5 50.Kd2 b5
>>>>>51.Rf7 Bc3+ 52.Ke3 Bb1 53.f5 gxf5 54.g5 b4 55.g6 f4+ 56.Rxf4+ Bd4+ 57.Kd2
>>>>>{-4.80/12}
>>>>>Bxg6 {5.66/14} 58.Rf1 {-4.83/12} Be4 {6.03/16} 59.Kc1 {-5.01/11} Be3+ {6.89/15}
>>>>>60.Kb2 {-6.18/11} Kd3 {7.48/15} 61.Rd1+ {-6.17/11} Ke2 {12.56/18} 62.Rd8
>>>>>{-5.91/11} c4
>>>>>{12.70/16} 63.Re8 {-6.75/11} Bf5 {12.96/15} 64.a4 {-7.86/11} c3+ {M12/12} 65.Kb3
>>>>>{-19.04/12} {White resigns} 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>36.h4 Ne6 37.Ne4 Qe7 38.g5 Nf4 39.gxh6 Bxh6 40.Qg3 Qe6 41.Kh2 d5 42.Ng5 Bxg5
>>>>>43.hxg5
>>>>>Re7 44.Rc2 Qf5 45.Rf2 {-12.31/16} {White resigns} 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>36.h4 Ne6 37.Ne4 Qe7 38.g5 Nf4 39.gxh6 Bxh6 40.Qg3 Qe6 41.Kh2 d5 42.Ng5 Bxg5
>>>>>43.hxg5
>>>>>Re7 44.Rc2 Qf5 45.Rf2 {-11.61/10} Rh7+ {11.29/12} 46.Kg1 {-13.23/11} Qe4
>>>>>{12.66/13}
>>>>>47.Qf3 {-13.26/11} {White resigns} 0-1
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>52.h5 b5 53.axb5 c4 54.bxc4 a4 55.Re2 Bb4 56.Rb2 Bc3 57.Rc2 Bh8 58.Ra2 Ra8
>>>>>59.Nf7 Bc3
>>>>>60.h6 Ke7 61.Ne5 a3 62.h7 Bb2 63.c5 {7.37/15} Re8 {-7.92/11} 64.b6 {7.76/14}
>>>>>cxb6
>>>>>{-8.81/13} 65.d6+ {8.22/15} Ke6 {-10.41/13} {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>52.h5 b5 53.axb5 c4 54.bxc4 a4 55.Re2 Bb4 56.Rb2 Bc3 57.Rc2 Bh8 58.Ra2 Ra8
>>>>>59.Nf7 Bc3
>>>>>60.h6 Ke7 61.Ne5 a3 62.h7 Bb2 63.c5 {8.43/11} Re8 {-8.12/17} {Black resigns}
>>>>>1-0
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>Kg7 44.b4 Kf6 45.a5 bxa5 46.bxa5 Kg7 47.Kb4 Kf6 48.Kc5 Kg7 49.Be2 Rde8 50.Rxe8
>>>>>Rxe8
>>>>>51.Bf3 Re1 {-5.91/12} 52.Bxd5 {7.37/15} Ra1 {-6.77/12} 53.Rxf7+ {8.42/14} Kh6
>>>>>{-7.98/13} 54.Be4 {8.49/14} Re1 {-9.47/13} {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>>>
>>>>...
>>>>>Kg7 44.b4 Kf6 45.a5 bxa5 46.bxa5 Kg7 47.Kb4 Kf6 48.Kc5 Kg7 49.Be2 Rde8 50.Rxe8
>>>>>Rxe8
>>>>>51.Bf3 Kf6 {-6.70/19} 52.Bxd5 {6.60/13} Rf8 {-7.35/19} 53.Kb6 {7.56/13} Kg7
>>>>>{-7.47/17}
>>>>>54.Be6 {8.34/13} Rd8 {-8.02/17} {Black resigns} 1-0
>>>>>
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