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Subject: Re: So whoever makes a big thing of free progs. is misleading us.

Author: Dann Corbit

Date: 08:18:08 10/22/03

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On October 22, 2003 at 10:40:37, stuart taylor wrote:

>Because as soon as they become among the top 6-10, they will anyway become
>comercial.
>Therefore, indeed, free programs are the arena for weaker programs. They will
>never compete, just join.

Nobody is being mislead.  If they swore a solemn oath always to give it away for
free, then that would be misleading.

Of course, we have been getting free gold nuggets and now the faucet will turn
off.  So naturally, we will cry a little bit.

But there will always be crafty, and other strong engines.  And we still have
the versions that they did give away for nothing.

And you can buy a top-flite chess engine for about $30.  So we can dry our tears
and break out our checkbooks.

By the way, have you tried ElChinito?

Better try your turn before it goes pro.  Another dynamite dandy:

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2003.10.22"]
[Round "1"]
[White "Ruffian 1.0.5"]
[Black "ElChinito_31"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]

1. c4 e5 2. Nc3 Nf6 3. g3 Bb4 4. Bg2 O-O 5. e4 Nc6 6. a3 Bc5 7. b4 Bd4 8.
Nge2 d6 9. d3 Bb6 10. Na4 Bg4 11. f3 Be6 12. Nxb6 axb6 13. b5 Ne7 14. Bg5
Ng6 15. O-O h6 16. Bd2 Qd7 17. f4 Bh3 18. fxe5 dxe5 19. Bxh6 Bxg2 20. Kxg2
Qd6 21. Bg5 Nh7 22. Bc1 Rfd8 23. Rf3 Ngf8 24. Nc3 Nd7 25. Rb1 Nc5 26. Nd5
Nf8 27. Rf1 Nfe6 28. Kh1 Ra4 29. Bb2 f6 30. Qg4 Ng5 31. Rbd1 Rf8 32. h4 Nh7
33. h5 Kh8 34. h6 Rg8 35. hxg7+ Rxg7 36. Qh4 Nd7 37. Ne3 Qe6 38. Nf5 Rg6
39. Rd2 Nc5 40. Rh2 Qf7 41. Kg2 Ne6 42. Bc1 Nf8 43. Qh5 Ra8 44. Bh6 Ne6 45.
Ne7 Rxg3+ 46. Kxg3 Qxe7 47. Be3 Nf8 48. Bc1 Rd8 49. Rf3 c6 50. Rh4 cxb5 51.
cxb5 Rd7 52. Kh2 Rc7 53. Be3 Rc3 54. Bh6 Ne6 55. Rg3 Rc2+ 56. Kh1 Rc7 57.
Bg7+ Qxg7 58. Rxg7 Kxg7 59. Qxh7+ Kf8 60. Qh8+ Ke7 61. Rh7+ Kd6 62. Qb8 Kc5
63. Rxc7+ Kd4 64. Rxb7 Nf4
{Black resigns} 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2003.10.22"]
[Round "2"]
[White "ElChinito_31"]
[Black "Ruffian 1.0.5"]
[Result "1-0"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Bxc6 dxc6 7. d3 Nd7
8. Nbd2 O-O 9. Nc4 f6 10. Be3 Nc5 11. Nh4 Be6 12. Na5 Qc8 13. Qd2 Na4 14.
b3 Nb6 15. f4 f5 16. Nf3 exf4 17. Bxf4 fxe4 18. dxe4 Rb8 19. Ng5 Bg4 20. c3
Ra8 21. Be3 h6 22. Nf3 Qe6 23. Nxb7 Bxf3 24. gxf3 Rf6 25. Bd4 Rg6+ 26. Kh1
Qh3 27. f4 Bh4 28. f5 Rg4 29. Qe2 Re8 30. Nc5 Be7 31. Ne6 c5 32. Nxc7 Rf8
33. Rf3 Qh4 34. Bf2 Rxe4 35. Qd3 Rd8 36. Bxh4 Rxd3 37. Rxd3 Rxh4 38. Re1 c4
39. Rdd1 Bg5 40. Re8+ Kf7 41. Re6 Bf4 42. Rxb6 Bxh2 43. Rd7+ Kg8 44. Kg2
Bxc7 45. Rxc7 Rf4 46. f6 Rxf6 47. Rxf6 gxf6 48. Rxc4 Kf7 49. Ra4 Kg6 50.
Rxa6 h5 51. a4 Kf7 52. b4 f5 53. c4
{Black resigns} 1-0

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2003.10.22"]
[Round "3"]
[White "Ruffian 1.0.5"]
[Black "ElChinito_31"]
[Result "1/2-1/2"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]

1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Be7 6. Re1 b5 7. Bb3 d6 8.
c3 O-O 9. h3 Na5 10. Bc2 c5 11. d4 Nd7 12. Nbd2 cxd4 13. cxd4 Nc6 14. Nb3
a5 15. Bd3 Ba6 16. d5 Nb4 17. Bb1 a4 18. Nbd4 exd4 19. Qxd4 Ne5 20. Qxb4
Nxf3+ 21. gxf3 Qd7 22. Kg2 Bc8 23. Rh1 a3 24. bxa3 Bf6 25. Bb2 Bxb2 26.
Qxb2 f5 27. exf5 Qf7 28. Qxb5 Bxf5 29. Qe2 Rae8 30. Qd1 Re5 31. a4 Rxd5 32.
Qb3 Bd3 33. f4 Qg6+ 34. Kh2 Qe4 35. Kg1 Kh8 36. Bxd3 Qxf4 37. Qc2 Rxd3 38.
Rh2 Qd4 39. Re1 g6 40. h4 Rd2 41. Qe4 Qc5 42. Qe3 Rxa2 43. Qxc5 dxc5 44.
Rc1 Rf5 45. Rc4 Rd5 46. Kg2 Kg7 47. Rh1 Rf5 48. Rf1 Kf6 49. Kg3 Ra3+ 50. f3
Ke6 51. Re4+ Kf6 52. Rc4 Ke6 53. Re4+ Kd6 54. Rd1+ Rd5 55. Rde1 Kc6 56. Kf2
Rdd3 57. Re6+ Rd6 58. R6e4 Rd2+ 59. Kg3 Rdd3 60. Re6+ Rd6 61. R6e4 Rf6 62.
R1e3 Rxe3 63. Rxe3 Kd5 64. Rd3+ Kc4 65. Rd7 h5 66. Ra7 Kb4 67. Kf2 c4 68.
a5 c3 69. Ke2 Rd6 70. a6 Kb3 71. Rb7+ Kc2 72. a7 Re6+ 73. Kf2 Ra6 74. Rd7
Kb2 75. Rb7+ Kc2 76. Ke3 Kc1 77. f4 Kc2 78. Rc7 Ra4 79. Rb7 Ra6 80. Ke2 Ra4
81. Re7 Ra1 82. Ke3 Ra2 83. Rb7 Ra1 84. Rd7 Ra2 85. Ke2 Ra4 86. Rb7 Ra1 87.
Ke3 Ra4 88. Rc7 Ra1 89. Kd4 Rd1+ 90. Kc5 Ra1 91. Kb4 Kb2 92. Rxc3 Rxa7 93.
Rf3 Kc2 94. Kc4 Kd1 95. Kd5 Ra4 96. Ke5 Ke2 97. Rc3 Kf2 98. Rd3 Ra6 99. Rc3
Kg2 100. Rd3 Ra4 101. Rc3 Kf2 102. Rb3 Rc4 103. Ra3 Kg2 104. Rd3 Kf2 105.
Rb3 Kg2 106. Ra3 Kf2 107. Rd3 Kg2 108. Rb3 Kf2 109. Rd3 Kg2 110. Re3 Kf2
111. Rd3
{Drawn by 3-fold repetition} 1/2-1/2

[Event "Computer chess game"]
[Site "DANNFAST"]
[Date "2003.10.22"]
[Round "4"]
[White "ElChinito_31"]
[Black "Ruffian 1.0.5"]
[Result "0-1"]
[TimeControl "120+5"]

1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5 3. exd5 exd5 4. c4 Qe7+ 5. Be3 Qb4+ 6. Nc3 dxc4 7. Qe2
Nf6 8. Bg5+ Qe7 9. Bxf6 gxf6 10. Qxe7+ Bxe7 11. Bxc4 Be6 12. d5 Bf5 13.
O-O-O Nd7 14. Nb5 O-O-O 15. d6 cxd6 16. Nxa7+ Kb8 17. Nb5 Rc8 18. b3 Be6
19. Kb1 Bxc4 20. bxc4 Rxc4 21. Nxd6 Rb4+ 22. Kc2 Bxd6 23. Rxd6 Rc8+ 24. Kd2
Rb2+ 25. Ke3 Ne5 26. Rd4 Rc3+ 27. Ke4 Ng4 28. Nh3 Rxh3 29. gxh3 Nxf2+ 30.
Ke3 Nxh1 31. Rd2 Rxd2 32. Kxd2 Nf2 33. Ke3 Nxh3 34. Ke4 Ng5+ 35. Kf4 h5 36.
Kf5 Nh7 37. Kf4 Kc7 38. Ke4 Kd6 39. Kf4 Ke6 40. Kg3 f5 41. Kf4 Nf6 42. Kf3
Ne4 43. Kf4 b5 44. a3 Nc3 45. Kg5 Nb1 46. Kxh5 Kf6 47. Kh4
{White resigns} 0-1




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