Author: Drexel,Michael
Date: 06:12:45 10/24/03
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On October 24, 2003 at 07:58:40, Igor Gorelikov wrote: >On October 24, 2003 at 07:41:26, Jonas Bylund wrote: > >>On October 24, 2003 at 07:32:52, Igor Gorelikov wrote: >> >>>On October 24, 2003 at 06:58:32, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>> >>>>On October 24, 2003 at 06:44:22, Igor Gorelikov wrote: >>>> >>>>>On October 24, 2003 at 06:16:59, Jonas Bylund wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>On October 24, 2003 at 05:47:18, Igor Gorelikov wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>>I ran two final rounds of the tournament. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Time control: 15'+3" >>>>>>>Celeron 1.7GHz 128MB; hash settings is up to 38MB in sum for each engine; >>>>>>>resign is set to 6; main 5-men Nalimov's TBs. >>>>>>>Galis WBTM 0.5.0 is used to arrange the event. >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Tough Guys >>>>>>>Celeron 1.7GHz 128MB, 2003.10.23 - 2003.10.24 >>>>>>> Score 1 2 3 4 >>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>> 1: SOS.3 for Arena 9.0 / 12 XXXX 110= =110 1111 >>>>>>> 2: Crafty 16.19 7.0 / 12 001= XXXX =101 =11= >>>>>>> 3: Ruffian 1.0.1 6.5 / 12 =001 =010 XXXX 111= >>>>>>> 4: Chinito 3.1 1.5 / 12 0000 =00= 000= XXXX >>>>>>>----------------------------------------------------- >>>>>>>24 games: +12 =6 -6 >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Here is the link to download all the games: >>>>>>>http://www.digichess.gr/infiniteloop/games/S0001r.zip >>>>>>> >>>>>>>Best regards, >>>>>>>Igor Gorelikov >>>>>> >>>>>>There is obviously something wrong with your setup, try rerunning this >>>>>>tournament using Arena. >>>> >>>>I will, although i can't get Crafty 16.19 up and running in Arena, could you >>>>post the crafty.rc that you use with 16.19? >>>> >>>>I have some engagements this weekend, so i will run the same tournament setup >>>>using a different (either crafty or another engine at par) engine ver. >>>> >>>>>There is obviously something wrong with your words. :-( >>>>>You've better try to run a similar event with the same participants instead of >>>>>that. >>>> >>>>I see nothing wrong with my choice of words, i have run several games between >>>>El_Chinito 3.1, Ruffian etc and see so far that chinito is at par with Ruffian, >>>>who usually beats up on SOS and SOS usually beats up on Crafty :) >>>> >>>>The point is, Chinito 3.1 only scoring 3 draws in that company is VERY unlikely, >>>>when i say i suspect something is wrong with your setup, i don't mean it as >>>>something peronal, just we are only humans and make mistakes once in a while and >>>>that might be the case here. >>>> >>>>Regards >>>>Jonas >>> >>>OK, now I know what you mean. ;-) >>>I think any thorough testing needs a variaty of people and hardware. >>> >>>Best regards, >>>Igor Gorelikov >> >>I have started my own test with the same setup as you, i just replaced Crafty >>16.19 with Yace Paderborn. If needed though, i will run it again with Crafty >>16.19 given i can make it run ubder Arena. >> >>0 of 72 games played >>Tournament start: 2003.10.24, 12:44:16 >>Latest update: 2003.10.24, 12:46:41 >>Site/ Country: Aarhus, Denmark >>Level: Blitz 15/3 >>Hardware: AMD Athlon(tm) Processor 1210 MHz (1.5 Gb ram) >>Operating system: Microsoft Windows XP Build 2600 >> >>Participants: >> >>ElChinito_31 >>Ruffian 1.0.1 >>Yace Paderborn >>SOS.3 for Arena >> >>Regards >>Jonas > >It will be better to include Crafty 16.19 for proper comparison. > >IMPO, Yace Paderborn is weaker than Crafty 16.19 (about 100 ELO point) on fast >hardware. > >regards, >Igor Yes certainly, according to your personal opinion Crafty 16.19 is roughly as strong as Junior 7 or Hiarcs 8. I suggest you play tournament time control matches between Crafty 16.19 and those engines and watch Crafty 16.19 to score round about 33%. Those '100 point stronger claims/opinions' seem to accumulate recently. Not long ago I read a posting on the occasion of the Ruffian 2.0 announcement from Quisinsky (Arena Webmaster): "(I believe Ruffian is one of TOP 3 chess programs in the World). The Leiden version 10.10.03 is more as 100 ELO stronger as Ruffian 1.05". Michael
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