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Subject: Re: 65 bits!

Author: Vincent Diepeveen

Date: 10:59:07 10/24/03

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On October 24, 2003 at 13:38:13, Robert Hyatt wrote:

>On October 23, 2003 at 22:29:39, Vincent Diepeveen wrote:
>
>>On October 22, 2003 at 11:28:09, Gerd Isenberg wrote:
>>
>>>On October 22, 2003 at 03:33:05, Daniel Clausen wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 21, 2003 at 15:29:19, Eugene Nalimov wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On Itanium integer registers are actually 65 bits wide. 64 bits for data and one
>>>>>NAT (not a thing) bit.
>>>>>
>>>>>:-)
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks,
>>>>>Eugene
>>>>
>>>>If there is a way to use this bit for yourself too, I'm sure Gerd will come up
>>>>with another cool new algorithm! :)
>>>>
>>>>Sargon
>>>
>>>;-)
>>>
>>>I'm really not familar with this very interesting processor architecture. It has
>>>an integer register file of 128! * 64+NaT. It seems well designed to do a lot of
>>>parallel fill cycles.
>>>I guess a set NaT-bit may trigger some exceptions/interrupts if you do some
>>>operations with uninitialited registers, allowing some lowlevel try-catch like
>>>control structures (including stack rewind?).
>>>
>>>Gerd
>>
>>Itanium2 is especially known for executing many NOP instructions :)
>>
>>Nah it isn't that bad. It's a cool cpu in fact. Too bad it can't be clocked very
>>high.
>>
>>It's horror & co for bitboards though. Forget writing in assembly for that
>>processor :)
>
>Why do you make such uninformed statements?  It is _not_ "horror and co for
>bitboards".  It works _great_ for bitboards.
>
>And _you_ might forget writing in asm, but I have written asm for VLIW
>architectures in the past.  It is not that difficult.  But then again,
>I am very flexible.  Rigidity always has problems bending into a new
>"shape".

Diep, which is a 32 bits program and doesn't fit in 16KB instruction cache,
is profitting more from itanium2 than crafty does.

Crafty as you might know is a 64 bits program which is fitting a whole lot
easier in that 16KB instruction cache than diep is.

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