Author: Keith Ian Price
Date: 23:59:55 11/09/98
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On November 09, 1998 at 14:36:00, Jay Rinde wrote: >On November 09, 1998 at 13:50:11, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >> >>On November 09, 1998 at 12:39:46, odell hall wrote: >> >>>You are exactly right! If the match did in fact happen why haven't they >>>published the games? The kasparov match is over so they can't fear that kasparov >>>will see the games. What other possible motivation for not revealing the games >>>other than that it never occured!! >> >>If this thread is going to start up again, please let it not go down this >>particular path. >> >>When you say that match never occurred, you are saying that a particular person, >>namely Murray Campbell, lied to me when I asked him about this match after a >>lecture. You are also saying that Feng Hsu lied to Bob in email between those >>two. >> >>Whatever you think about IBM or Deep Blue or any of the rest of this, these guys >>don't deserve to be accused of lying. >> >>I think discussion of those games will be fruitless because we don't have them, >>and the details surrounding how they were played are still fuzzy. Any >>conclusions drawn from them are only minimally useful in my pesonal opinion. >> >>The only thing worse than making conclusions from these games is making >>conclusions out of thin air, which is the alternative. >> >>Fact is that the obvious questions about how DB would do against micros can't be >>answered. It is only possible to speculate. >> >>bruce > I don't think that is speculation when some one says they defeated a particular >opponent without giving any facts. If I said I beat DB 10-0 I think you would >want me to give some details. I don't think the DB people are lying. I just >don't think they are saying anything meaningful. It would have been best to say >nothing. For the most part, they have said nothing. Most of the talk was generated by Bob Hyatt in response to people saying that Deep Blue was just fast and dumb. When Hsu shared the information with him, Bob felt it important to post it. Hsu did not bring it up in his presentations, and only answered direct questions that I put to him afterwards. I was asking due to the exitement generated by Bob's posts. I was hoping to get the scores, but Hsu doesn't think they were saved. kp
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