Author: Vincent Lejeune
Date: 05:02:37 10/25/03
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IMHO, the point of all of this is Junior with only 1 minor piece think is not possible to win so when it stay with 1 N or 1 B the score is never >0.00 On October 25, 2003 at 07:59:44, Vincent Lejeune wrote: >after looking at some lines a saw the strangest eval from Junior 8 > >[d]8/8/8/5N2/6p1/8/5K1p/7k b - - 0 1 > >Analysis by Junior 8: > >1. = (0.00): 9...g3+ 10.Cxg3# > >from this position : 8/8/8/8/6p1/4N3/5K1p/7k w - - let analyse , it evaluate >0.00 play Nf5 and it still 0.00 despite the mate in 1 :) > >Giving draw for a mate in 1 ??? :)) > >On October 25, 2003 at 00:59:40, James T. Walker wrote: > >>On October 24, 2003 at 10:21:01, Mihaly Szalai wrote: >> >>>[D]8/6p1/3N4/8/4B3/4K1kp/5p1p/8 w - - 0 1 >>> >>>This position is nice and not too difficult. (White wins.) >>>E.g. Ruffian solves it immediately. >>>You should give it a try with your engine. >>> >>>Thanks >>>Mihaly >>> >>>PS. Junior is baffled once again. >>> >>>Analysis by Junior 8 (Celeron 1.7, 64MB HT): >>> >>>1.Nc8 f1Q >>> -+ (-10.64) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >>>1.Nc4 f1Q >>> -+ (-10.06) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1Q 3.Bxh1 >>> +- (1.80) Depth: 3 00:00:00 >>>1.Nf5+! >>> +- (2.10) Depth: 6 00:00:00 1kN >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 Kf4 3.Ng3 g5 4.Bh1 >>> +- (2.39) Depth: 6 00:00:00 2kN >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Ba8 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 9 00:00:00 60kN, tb=1 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 12 00:00:00 207kN, tb=34 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 15 00:00:02 2893kN, tb=124 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 18 00:00:11 12735kN, tb=575 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 20 00:00:41 48366kN, tb=3731 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 22 00:01:23 89541kN, tb=8809 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 23 00:02:20 142297kN, tb=13812 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 24 00:11:21 797448kN, tb=31235 >>>1.Nf5+ Kg4 2.Kxf2 h1N+ 3.Bxh1 Kxf5 4.Kg3 >>> = (0.00) Depth: 25 00:21:01 1564776kN, tb=49849 >>> >>>(Szalai, MyTown 24.10.2003) >> >>Which Ruffian? My Ruffian 1.0.5 is confused even at Depth 21. Ruffian shows a >>score of +6.02 for Ke2 and then changes it's mind to a draw again. At depth 22 >>the same thing happens again. Ruffian can't make up it's mind if white is >>winning or it's a draw. >> >>Ruffian 1.0.5 UCI: >>D1 00:00 -6.28 1.Be4h1 f2f1Q >>D1 00:00 -0.03 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1Q 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D2 00:00 -0.03 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1Q 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D3 00:00 -0.03 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1Q 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D4 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1Q 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D5 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1Q 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D6 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D7 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D8 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D9 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D10 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D11 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D12 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D13 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D14 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D15 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D16 00:00 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ 9.Kh2g1 Kf4f5 10.Bh1f3 >>D17 00:03 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Be4xh1 Kg4xf5 4.Kf2f3 h3h2 >>5.Kf3g3 g7g5 6.Kg3xh2 g5g4 7.Bh1d5 Kf5f4 8.Bd5h1 g4g3+ >>D18 00:05 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ >>D19 00:32 0.00 1.Nd6f5+ Kg3g4 2.Ke3xf2 h2h1N+ 3.Kf2g1 Nh1g3 4.Nf5d6 Ng3xe4 >>5.Nd6xe4 h3h2+ 6.Kg1xh2 g7g5 7.Kh2g1 Kg4f4 8.Ne4f2 g5g4 9.Kg1h2 g4g3+ 10.Kh2g1 >>g3xf2+ 11.Kg1xf2 Kf4f5 12.Kf2g2 Kf5f4 13.Kg2h1 Kf4e5 14.Kh1g2 Ke5e4 >>D19+ 00:40 0.00 1.Ke3e2 >>D19 01:01 5.57 1.Ke3e2 h2h1Q 2.Be4xh1 Kg3h2 3.Ke2f1 g7g5 4.Bh1f3 Kh2g3 >>5.Bf3c6 Kg3g4 6.Bc6d7+ Kg4f4 7.Kf1xf2 g5g4 8.Nd6f5 Kf4g5 9.Kf2g3 Kg5f6 10.Nf5e3 >>Kf6g5 11.Ne3xg4 >>D20 01:27 5.63 1.Ke3e2 h2h1Q 2.Be4xh1 Kg3h2 3.Ke2f1 g7g5 4.Bh1f3 Kh2g3 >>5.Bf3b7 Kg3g4 6.Bb7c8+ Kg4f4 7.Kf1xf2 g5g4 8.Nd6f5 Kf4e4 9.Kf2g3 Ke4e5 10.Nf5h6 >>Ke5e4 11.Bc8b7+ Ke4e5 12.Nh6xg4+ >>D21+ 02:07 0.00 1.Ke3e2 >>D21 02:48 6.02 1.Ke3e2 h2h1Q 2.Be4xh1 Kg3h2 3.Ke2f1 g7g5 4.Bh1f3 Kh2g3 >>5.Bf3b7 Kg3g4 6.Bb7c8+ Kg4f4 7.Kf1xf2 g5g4 8.Nd6f5 h3h2 9.Kf2g2 h2h1Q+ 10.Kg2xh1 >>Kf4f3 11.Kh1h2 Kf3f2 12.Bc8b7 Kf2e2 13.Nf5g3+ >>D22+ 04:39 0.00 1.Ke3e2 >>D22 06:04 6.38 1.Ke3e2 h2h1Q 2.Be4xh1 Kg3h2 3.Ke2f1 g7g5 4.Bh1f3 Kh2g3 >>5.Bf3b7 Kg3g4 6.Bb7c8+ Kg4f4 7.Kf1xf2 h3h2 8.Kf2g2 Kf4e5 9.Nd6e8 Ke5f4 10.Kg2xh2 >>Kf4f3 11.Ne8f6 Kf3f4 12.Bc8g4 Kf4e5
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