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Subject: Re: all time multiple world record setting chess programmer

Author: Jonas Bylund

Date: 14:33:07 10/26/03

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On October 26, 2003 at 17:22:31, Uri Blass wrote:

>On October 26, 2003 at 17:16:05, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>On October 26, 2003 at 16:51:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>
>>>On October 26, 2003 at 16:02:43, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>>Ruffian!!!!!!   Perola Valfridsson!!!!!!   Congratulations!!!!!!!!
>>>>
>>>>1. all time world record for least amount of time writing and understanding
>>>>chess code capable of beating top commercial programs.
>>>
>>>You do not know it because you do not know how much time other people devote to
>>>this task.
>>>
>>>>2. all time world record for keeping secret while working long hours working on
>>>>chess program.
>>>
>>>I see no reason to be impressed by that record and I do not know if it is a
>>>record.
>>>
>>>Maybe somebody works 20 years about a secret chess program and still keep it as
>>>a secret so you do not know about it.
>>>
>>>>3. all time world record for least amount of bugs, needed patches, best
>>>>compatibility with operating systems, no complaints from endusers, etc. (most
>>>>near perfect code in my time)(for me this, by far, is the most unbelievable)
>>>
>>>How do you know?
>>>If you do not release versions with bugs it does not prove that you had less
>>>bugs in versions that you did not release.
>>>
>>>>4. all time world record for not asking questions from other top programmers,
>>>>and achieving on your own.
>>>
>>>How do you know that he did not ask other programmers questions by email?
>>>
>>>>5. all time world record for winning a top chess program tournament in least
>>>>amount of time after release. (modern day record, and including commercials)
>>>>6. all time world record for highest strength level achieved in shortest number
>>>>of released versions.
>>>
>>>I am not impressed by these records because I do not see what is so good in not
>>>releasing versions.
>>>
>>>Uri
>>
>>  Professionality. A good professional never releases a program with bugs.
>>  Ruffian is a great achievement, but we shouldn't forget that we have been
>>witness of a probably bigger achievement. I'm talking about GCP's Deep Sjeng. He
>>started off with something similar to my Averno, and he has a super strong
>>tactical monster. Tremendous merit IMO.
>>
>>  José C.
>
>I do not see why it is a bigger achievement.
>
>Deep Sjeng has more processors than Ruffian but it did not win the tournament
>and we have no evidence that it is better than Ruffian.
>
>Uri
>Uri
>Uri


DS does not have to be stronger than Ruffian for it to be a great achievement,
if you think from Sjeng 13.12 to Deep Sjeng and how strong it is (dual or no
dual) there is a huge improvement, i have pointed it out before and i agree with
Jose.

Regards
Jonas



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