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Subject: Re: all time multiple world record setting chess programmer

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 14:48:22 10/26/03

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On October 26, 2003 at 17:33:07, Jonas Bylund wrote:

>On October 26, 2003 at 17:22:31, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 26, 2003 at 17:16:05, José Carlos wrote:
>>
>>>On October 26, 2003 at 16:51:26, Uri Blass wrote:
>>>
>>>>On October 26, 2003 at 16:02:43, K. Burcham wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Ruffian!!!!!!   Perola Valfridsson!!!!!!   Congratulations!!!!!!!!
>>>>>
>>>>>1. all time world record for least amount of time writing and understanding
>>>>>chess code capable of beating top commercial programs.
>>>>
>>>>You do not know it because you do not know how much time other people devote to
>>>>this task.
>>>>
>>>>>2. all time world record for keeping secret while working long hours working on
>>>>>chess program.
>>>>
>>>>I see no reason to be impressed by that record and I do not know if it is a
>>>>record.
>>>>
>>>>Maybe somebody works 20 years about a secret chess program and still keep it as
>>>>a secret so you do not know about it.
>>>>
>>>>>3. all time world record for least amount of bugs, needed patches, best
>>>>>compatibility with operating systems, no complaints from endusers, etc. (most
>>>>>near perfect code in my time)(for me this, by far, is the most unbelievable)
>>>>
>>>>How do you know?
>>>>If you do not release versions with bugs it does not prove that you had less
>>>>bugs in versions that you did not release.
>>>>
>>>>>4. all time world record for not asking questions from other top programmers,
>>>>>and achieving on your own.
>>>>
>>>>How do you know that he did not ask other programmers questions by email?
>>>>
>>>>>5. all time world record for winning a top chess program tournament in least
>>>>>amount of time after release. (modern day record, and including commercials)
>>>>>6. all time world record for highest strength level achieved in shortest number
>>>>>of released versions.
>>>>
>>>>I am not impressed by these records because I do not see what is so good in not
>>>>releasing versions.
>>>>
>>>>Uri
>>>
>>>  Professionality. A good professional never releases a program with bugs.
>>>  Ruffian is a great achievement, but we shouldn't forget that we have been
>>>witness of a probably bigger achievement. I'm talking about GCP's Deep Sjeng. He
>>>started off with something similar to my Averno, and he has a super strong
>>>tactical monster. Tremendous merit IMO.
>>>
>>>  José C.
>>
>>I do not see why it is a bigger achievement.
>>
>>Deep Sjeng has more processors than Ruffian but it did not win the tournament
>>and we have no evidence that it is better than Ruffian.
>>
>>Uri
>>Uri
>>Uri
>
>
>DS does not have to be stronger than Ruffian for it to be a great achievement,
>if you think from Sjeng 13.12 to Deep Sjeng and how strong it is (dual or no
>dual) there is a huge improvement, i have pointed it out before and i agree with
>Jose.
>
>Regards
>Jonas

I did not say that it is not a great achievement.
I only objected to probably bigger acievement than Ruffian.

Uri



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