Author: Reynolds Takata
Date: 11:50:07 11/10/98
Is I.M. Kaufman, and the recent CCC poll on Comp strength the definitive word on whether comps are GM strength? I was just wondering because it AMAZES me that after so much debate on the subject that an International Chess Master states in "Computer Chess Web Reports" that he believes that a program "Mchess 8.1" would be able to acquire the 3 grandmaster norms in 40/2 tournaments to acquire the GM title, and that almost no one in the group commented on it. It's stunning this silence, especially since most CCC members will probably expect other programs (i.e. Rebel10, Fritz, Hiarcs etc.) to be stronger than Mchess. Of course I know it's not definitive but does this mean that the tide is turning hard against the ney sayers? Yes i know you might be able to find some other titled players to counter, though I don't know if they know as much about comp chess as Kaufman. Also every time i have asked titled players (5 players) on ICC if Comps could get the norms at 40/2 they all said yes. Though some didn't think comps could stand up to a lot of GM's in a match but they thought a tournament situation was different. Though after watching R10 draw anand in a 40/2 game i'm not certain even of that. Reynolds Takata USCF Life Master Fide Master "The last time I checked, the indicated adjustment to convert to USCF ratings was 180, which would give it a predicted USCF rating of 2696. Even a tiny gain would bring the new version over 2700, the same level as the top four or five American grandmasters. This is at standard tournament speed (40/2); at fast chess the programs are stronger still. Although I suspect that the method used to get the Swedish ratings tends to exaggerate the ratings of the top programs a bit for several reasons, I do believe that MChess Pro 8.0 would be able to earn the Grandmaster title if given a reasonable number of opportunities to play in GM norm tournaments. In fact, an earlier version (5.0) defeated three Grandmasters in a single six round event (Aegon) at standard time controls. At fast chess, it is a terror;" (Kaufman Nov, 1998)
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