Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:55:53 10/28/03
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On October 28, 2003 at 10:38:04, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On October 28, 2003 at 09:42:48, Robert Hyatt wrote: > > >>No. If you look at _my_ history with Cray Blitz you will see that I >>discovered that we played better with 1. d4 as white. We had some >>reasonable positional knowledge that helped in the more strategic >>openings that arise from 1. d4. I didn't do it because I thought I >>was hurting my chances of winning... I did it because I thought it >>_helped_. >> >>I assume Jeroen did the same thing. Perhaps some of his 1. e4 lines >>led Sjeng into positions it didn't like or understand or play very well. >>It would be natural to try to avoid them. >> >>I have this horrible tendency to believe that most people do their >>very best when helping others. I can't imagine him intentionally >>preparing a book for Sjeng that would decrease its chances of winning. >> >>Now if you want to argue that one book author should not be allowed to >>prepare an opening book for three different programs, there I agree 100%. >>I can't contribute significant pieces of code to three different programs >>and have them all play in ICCA events. I don't see why someone can >>contribute three significant opening books (which can go as deep as 20 moves >>in a game that may only last 40 moves). The ICCA is completely out of >>touch with common sense here, mainly because of $$$ I assume. >> >>What is happening is wrong. But it isn't wrong because Jeroen is trying to >>make Sjeng lose. It is wrong because one person is helping _three_ programs >>to win. That is bogus. The ICCA _knows_ it is bogus. But they let it >>continue, for reasons only they have. > > >Yes. What you said makes perfect sense. I had problems understanding that: I >had always thought of Jeroen as the Rebel book author -- now you see him as the >Tiger and Deep Sjeng book author as well. I am not saying that it is dishonest >on his part -- but it definitely puts him in a split personality kind of >position. Furthermore, I believe that he simply can't be as successful as he >might be creating only one book. > >Strange in my opinion. And difficult to understand. > >Djordje I don't think it has a thing to do with honesty. I'd never question Jeroen's honesty at all. It does have a lot to do with fairness. Bruce Moreland summed it up best: "why do I have to face the _same_ outstanding book twice in the same tournament when I don't ever face the same _program_ twice?" That's a good point. A good book can be a significant advantage. There are complaints if an amateur tries to use a commercial program's opening book. Why not if two different commercial entries try to use the same book?
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