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Subject: Re: Deep Blue and the

Author: Dave Gomboc

Date: 12:49:27 11/10/98

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On November 10, 1998 at 10:56:40, Peter Hegger wrote:

>On November 09, 1998 at 14:30:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 1998 at 12:39:46, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On November 09, 1998 at 09:21:50, Peter Hegger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello, My name is Deep Blue
>>>>
>>>>Did I ever tell you about the ten game match I played a few years back?
>>>>Well, I played all the leading micros and made a perfect 10-0 score against
>>>>them. Wiped them all off the board easily.
>>>>What? You want to see the games?
>>>>Oh no sorry, I couldn't possibly do that.
>>>>You'll just have to take my word for it that it really happened.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are exactly right! If the match did in fact happen why haven't they
>>>published the games? The kasparov match is over so they can't fear that kasparov
>>>will see the games. What other possible motivation for not revealing the games
>>>other than that it never occured!!
>>
>>If you want to believe that pigs can fly, that there is a free lunch, and that
>>this match never happened, go right ahead.  P.T. Barnum had a comment that fits
>>really well.
>>
>>As to why won't they say anything?  After all the obnoxious posts here about
>>deep blue and how badly it plays and how lucky it was to beat kasparov and
>>how it can't hold a light to todays micros, maybe, just maybe, they don't give
>>a damn about what anyone here thinks?  Wouldn't blame them in the least...
>>
>>Never seen such a bunch of closed minds...  of course when something is closed
>>that tightly, it is *very dark* inside...
>
>Quite the contrary.
>It is because I am looking at the issue with an open mind that I pose the
>question about the games.
>For Hsu and Campbell to say that these games were not considered important
>enough to record strains credibility.

Having spoken with Dr. Campbell in person about this 10-game match, their
statements on this issue do not strain their credibility to me.  My impression
after our conversation ended was that the games were wipe-outs, much like they
would be if I (as a 2100 player) sat down at a local pub and played some
skittles games against some random people (who might be 1600 or so).  The game
is going along fine, whoops, they missed something, here comes ...Rxf2!, and
it's smashorama.  No, I would not record the games for posterity later, and
neither did they.

I don't recall Murray suggesting that the crippled prototype had equivalent
computing power to the microcomputer competition, just that it was crippled by a
very large factor from their "good stuff".

Dave Gomboc



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