Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 20:16:47 10/28/03
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On October 28, 2003 at 17:32:55, Sune Fischer wrote: >On October 28, 2003 at 13:13:56, José Carlos wrote: > >> A general case (nothing to do with real programs or persons): Program A and >>program B play in the last round of a world champ. If A wins the game, it's the >>champion (prize for winner: $1,000,000). B is in the middle of the table. >> >> Case 1: They both use Nalimov tablebases >> Case 2: They both have the same author >> Case 3: They both have the same book author >> >> Of course, in the three cases the authors may do changes to the book / engine >>parameters. >> Now what is fair and what is not? Why? > >I don't really understand the example, no single guy can run two engines as far >as I know. > >To get back on track, no I don't see a problem with some engines using the same >book, unless you somehow suspect the book has been rigged to make some win and >others lose. >However I don't buy into that conspiracy theory, for one thing the engines all >have different authors who wants to win (so unless you think the authors are in >on it as well...). Go to the first Trevemunde (I am not sure that is spelled correctly and I am at home and don't have my files here with me) WMCCC event. Read the reports about the "fixing" of certain games. You are overlooking the issue of a single company with three entries. The company wants to finish in first place. The company could certainly suggest that one of their programs lose to another of their programs, if that program is currently capable of winning while the first is not. That is a problem. It wasn't what happened in the current tournament, of course, but it has certainly happened in the past. But I could care less about that. I just don't want to face the _same_ book from multiple opponents, when that same book is prepared by a very capable book author, considering that I do my own book and it takes away from my development time... > >Whether just one person gets to use the book or x people uses it, makes no >difference to all those that don't get to use it, it will all be "unfair" to >them. You can't be "unfair" with just one. > >So I guess that basicly leaves you at a crossroad: >either we all use the book or nobody uses it! > >Is that fair? I like the idea of one book, one program, one "electronic chess player". They are a combination thing, but the book is a part of the total package. > >-S. >> José C.
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