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Subject: Re: Congrats to Ruffian!

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 02:41:39 10/29/03

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On October 29, 2003 at 04:59:37, Sune Fischer wrote:

>On October 29, 2003 at 04:34:19, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On October 29, 2003 at 04:06:35, Sune Fischer wrote:
>>
>>
>>I think that it is an important reason not to allow the same book for many
>>programs.
>>
>>You can expect cheating if you give one person the responsibility of many
>>programs.
>
>But that's not the case here, it's books.
>
>And I'd assume if you were the programmer to get stabbed in back from your book
>author, then you wouldn't ever trust that guy again.
>
>So they must be trusting his objectivity to put their heads in his hands.

The programmer cannot know for sure if the loss is because of bad luck or
because of cheating.

>
>>It is not a boring argument but a clearly relevant argument.
>
>><snipped>
>>>why not?
>>>I definitely feel cheated, I would like to use the Kure book as well :)
>>
>>Why?
>>
>>I think that it is a bad idea.
>>
>>Your engine is clearly weaker than the chessbase engines
>>If you have the kure book what is the excuse that you will have for losing?
>
>What does engine strength have to do with it?
>
>What excuse does Fritz have when it loses? (I'd use the same :)

The point is that I do not feel cheated if my engine lose against Fritz because
fritz is simply better.

If you have an inferior engine then book is the last thing that you should care
about.

The gap is really big and the top commercial can get more than 50% against
almost every amateur with time handicap of 3:1

I may start to think more seriously about book only when I can beat shredder7.04
 in the nunn2 match with time advantage of 3:1

Today latest Movei even scored only 45% against Junior5 with that time
advantage(5 minutes for Junior5 and 15 minutes for Movei) and I doubt if Frenzee
is better.

Uri



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