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Subject: Re: Deep Blue and the

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 14:27:43 11/10/98

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On November 10, 1998 at 10:56:40, Peter Hegger wrote:

>On November 09, 1998 at 14:30:31, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>
>>On November 09, 1998 at 12:39:46, odell hall wrote:
>>
>>>
>>>On November 09, 1998 at 09:21:50, Peter Hegger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Hello, My name is Deep Blue
>>>>
>>>>Did I ever tell you about the ten game match I played a few years back?
>>>>Well, I played all the leading micros and made a perfect 10-0 score against
>>>>them. Wiped them all off the board easily.
>>>>What? You want to see the games?
>>>>Oh no sorry, I couldn't possibly do that.
>>>>You'll just have to take my word for it that it really happened.
>>>
>>>
>>>You are exactly right! If the match did in fact happen why haven't they
>>>published the games? The kasparov match is over so they can't fear that kasparov
>>>will see the games. What other possible motivation for not revealing the games
>>>other than that it never occured!!
>>
>>If you want to believe that pigs can fly, that there is a free lunch, and that
>>this match never happened, go right ahead.  P.T. Barnum had a comment that fits
>>really well.
>>
>>As to why won't they say anything?  After all the obnoxious posts here about
>>deep blue and how badly it plays and how lucky it was to beat kasparov and
>>how it can't hold a light to todays micros, maybe, just maybe, they don't give
>>a damn about what anyone here thinks?  Wouldn't blame them in the least...
>>
>>Never seen such a bunch of closed minds...  of course when something is closed
>>that tightly, it is *very dark* inside...
>
>Quite the contrary.
>It is because I am looking at the issue with an open mind that I pose the
>question about the games.
>For Hsu and Campbell to say that these games were not considered important
>enough to record strains credibility.


Why would this be true?  I played a long match vs genius several years ago and
beat it nearly every game (using a Cray) and with significant time odds to boot.
I expected to win, I did, and I didn't save a single game score because I didn't
consider those games particularly remarkable...

I'd suspect Hsu did the same.  They told me about the match months after it had
been done.  By the time I reported it the data was gone.  What was worth saving?

IE I play new programs on ICC all the time, and they generally lose every game
for the first few months until they become more "complete."  I don't file those
games away... what would be the reason?



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