Author: Gerd Isenberg
Date: 11:21:35 10/29/03
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On October 29, 2003 at 09:07:48, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >On October 29, 2003 at 04:45:48, Gerd Isenberg wrote: > >>On October 28, 2003 at 13:40:03, Djordje Vidanovic wrote: >> >>>On October 28, 2003 at 09:04:00, Thorsten Czub wrote: >>> >>>>it seems chessbase is doing a kind of boycott or censoring. >>>>there was almost NO information in CSS forum, despite few postings by foreign >>>>posters. >>> >>>Thorsten, >>> >>>I tried to make sure whether the CSS Forum which I have stopped following for >>>pure lack of time (CCC and Arena FCP are enough for me at the moment) really did >>>not post anything about the Dutch Open. You said that only some "foreign >>>posters" reported a thing or two there. But you are wrong, a man whom you must >>>know posted several reports on the Leiden tourney, and he was NOT banned or >>>censored. Some other people also discussed Leiden in the CSS Forum and no one >>>was ostracised for that. Please, refer to at least the following: >>> >>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/80937.htm >>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/80955.htm >>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81052.htm >>>http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81063.htm >>> >>>I think that I owe an apology to the CSS Forum (and ChessBase and CSS as well) >>>for hasty and incorrect posting that may well have been rightfully >>>misinterpreted. I sincerely apologise. Besides that, as Tord Romstad said >>>below, we should await the new CSS issue and see. Now I am sure that the >>>coverage will be adequate. >>> >>>So, try to moderate your views please. And check facts. You got me duped for a >>>moment. My fault, I never learn things well about you. I kind of like what you >>>say, but then you turn out quite unreliable regarding other matters... >>> >>>Regards, >>> >>>Djordje >> >>Yes, but the initial point was not CSS-forum but ChessBase sites. >>Of course ChessBase isn't interested in publishing on computer chess events, >>where no exclusive ChessBase program take place, like fritz alias quest or >>shredder. In 2001 there were two detailed reports about the dutch open as well >>about the 2.CSVN tournament 2002: >> >>http://www.chessbase.de/events/events.asp?pid=114 >>http://www.chessbase.de/events/events.asp?pid=116 >>http://www.chessbase.com/newsdetail.asp?newsid=339 >> >>Gerd > > >OK, I went though all of these and I get your point... I saw you photo there too >:-). The reason i posted the links ;-) >The truth seems to be somewhere in-between. Still my reaction was to the >point, as there were some posts in the CSS Forum that were not censored. Not >only the ones quoted but some other ones as well: > >http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81113.htm >http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81097.htm >http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81101.htm >http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81095.htm >http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81082.htm >http://f23.parsimony.net/forum50826/messages/81086.htm > >and others, not only by Manfred Meiler but by some other people. So, Thorsten >was not right there. And I wanted to correct my original mistake of going along >with his assumption (criticism). Of course, I went through the URLs you listed >and I have to agree with you. The evidence is clear and unmistakeable. It >appears that my first and second posts on the topic were at least partly true. > >I merely wished to be as precise as possible, thus my apology and this >clarification. Summary: the CSS Forum treated the Leiden Championship fairly, >whilst the ChessBase site cared not at all... > >Gerd, thanks for pointing this out. > >Djordje I found the feedback in CSS appropriate, and i can understand ChessBase. They have simply no interest short before the "Virtual Reality 3D Match" and WCCC to push competitors to their customers. E.g. in the sense that there is very strong new (former free) program that won the dutch open, where fritz couldn't participate due to preparation for the coming events. Regards, Gerd
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