Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:01:50 10/30/03
Go up one level in this thread
On October 30, 2003 at 04:12:14, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >On October 30, 2003 at 03:41:42, Uri Blass wrote: > >>I do not understand what all this discussion is about. >> >>Can you explain what is the subject that you disagree with Bob. >>You say nothing against Vincent who attack Jeroen for no reason. > >I'm replying to that in another thread. > >>Jeroen could prepare some book to avoid draw between Sjeng and Tiger and Rebel. >>Jeroen did not do it. >> >>The company who sells all the 3 programs is the same so it is clear that draw >in these games is the worst result for commercial reasons because it increase >>the chances of another program to win. > >I don't understand, shouldn't other people be happy that we refuse to 'fix' >the results? > >If we'd have let Deep Sjeng and Rebel lose against Tiger, Tiger would >have won. Big 'accomplishment' eh? I'll leave that sort of practises >to other people, thank you very much. > >If you want to throw games because of commercial reasons please go ahead, >but I'm into this 'sport' because I want to show how good my program is, and >not how many friends I've got or how big my influence is. > >>Instead of saying something positive about Jeroen you choose to get into a >>discussion against Hyatt when I even do not understand what is the claim that >>Hyatt said that you disagree with. > >Vincent implied that Deep Sjeng gets good scores against Chess Tiger, when it's >running on a dual. Robert then went on to pretend he knows anything in that >matter and that 'Fortunately, the so-called "results" are not that repeatable >when real tournaments get played...', which is pure baloney, because Vincents >original statement was correct and also because Deep Sjeng has a positive score >against ChessTiger in tournament play (even if you go back to when I was still >an amateur). I didn't "pretend" do know anything. I simply said that such "slips" don't mean a thing. Tiger has been at the top of the SSDF. You haven't. Tiger has won more than one CC event. You haven't. That is pretty strong evidence, that is available in public, that suggests that such "leaked results" are not very reliable. IE why not play Christophe a public match on ICC? Let _him_ set up CT. Let _you_ set up Deep Sjeng. Then let the chips fall where they may with no setup errors. When you say "you have a positive score against CT in tournament play, even when you were still an amateur" how many games is that? And what is the error bar on computing a performance rating over that small number of games? And that number is to be taken as meaning anything? > >So basically, nothing whatsoever that Robert said had any basis in reality and >hence I _of course_ strongly disagree with him. Nothing at all. Except that Tiger seems to win more games than you, or I, or most anyone else... > >-- >GCP
This page took 0.01 seconds to execute
Last modified: Thu, 15 Apr 21 08:11:13 -0700
Current Computer Chess Club Forums at Talkchess. This site by Sean Mintz.