Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 07:05:28 10/30/03
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On October 30, 2003 at 08:21:14, Uri Blass wrote: >On October 30, 2003 at 08:07:01, Vincent Diepeveen wrote: > >>On October 30, 2003 at 06:07:37, Uri Blass wrote: >> >>>On October 30, 2003 at 04:12:14, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>> >>>>On October 30, 2003 at 03:41:42, Uri Blass wrote: >>>> >>>>>I do not understand what all this discussion is about. >>>>> >>>>>Can you explain what is the subject that you disagree with Bob. >>>>>You say nothing against Vincent who attack Jeroen for no reason. >>>> >>>>I'm replying to that in another thread. >>>> >>>>>Jeroen could prepare some book to avoid draw between Sjeng and Tiger and Rebel. >>>>>Jeroen did not do it. >>>>> >>>>>The company who sells all the 3 programs is the same so it is clear that draw >in these games is the worst result for commercial reasons because it increase >>>>>the chances of another program to win. >>>> >>>>I don't understand, shouldn't other people be happy that we refuse to 'fix' >>>>the results? >>> >>>Of course but Vincent said in >>> >>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?324307 >>> >>>Though i commercially can understand the idea, from sportive viewpoint i find it >>>very disgusting. >>> >>>My point is that if Jeroen can do disgusting things for commercial reasons the >>>first thing that I expect him to do it is not to do draws between the programs. >> >>For the same reason i expect a draw in world champs 2003 between Fritz and >>Brutus. >> >>Imagine the very well sold commercial program at a small PC, whose public >>statement is that it only learns through search, it plays a 6 times faster >>opponent who in its evaluation is applying double the knowledge. >> >>Normally spoken that is a loss by natural induction with small draw chances. > >Not that I suspect that chessbase is going to cheat for commercial reasons but >for commercial reasons I see no reason to do a draw. >If chessbase want to sell Fritz and agree to cheat for that purpose then a win >for Fritz is better than a draw. > >If selling Brutus is more important for them then a win for brutus is better for >them. > >Uri I think all of this is a load of crap. I don't think that in today's market, cheating is worth-while. And I don't think Jeroen would have anything to do with such a practice. it is just Vincent's nonsense, once again, making the accusation for something he knows nothing about. He's good at that...
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