Author: Dann Corbit
Date: 18:48:28 10/30/03
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On October 30, 2003 at 10:40:33, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On October 30, 2003 at 10:04:42, Matthew Hull wrote: > >>On October 30, 2003 at 09:39:51, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On October 30, 2003 at 04:56:17, Martin Andersen wrote: >>> >>>>On October 29, 2003 at 21:24:01, Fernando Villegas wrote: >>>> >>>>>Simple. Hyatts is no fully dedicated to Crafty, not being, as it is not, a >>>>>commercial endeavour. Hyatt is a scientist and as such I guess he expends 95% of >>>>>his time to research, teaching and the boring and long chores of academic jobs. >>>>>To become as strong as Junior, Hyatt should dedicate as many time to crafty as >>>>>Ban surely engages with his program. >>>>>Just my educated guess. >>>>>Fernando >>>> >>>>What Hyatt could do, in my dreams of course, is to >>>>start a project for example at http://sourceforge.org where >>>>Hyatt releases Crafty under the General public License. >>>>This will encourage others to participate, so Hyatt don't have to >>>>do all the development himself. >>>>Furthermore, there could be several versions of crafty, one of them >>>>focusing on playing strength and another on research. >>>> >>>>Martin. >>> >>> >>>I have actually thought about doing this, and it might be a workable >>>idea... >> >> >>Doesn't GNU Chess use this model? It does not seem to stay competitive, >>although Zarkov is based on it and is fairly strong, I think. >> >>MH > >I don't know. The question will turn into "how good are the people that >get involved?" That is impossible to answer until after it happens. I am guessing that crafty would be ruined, in the same way that the old 4.x GnuChess was totally ruined. Similarly, GnuChess 5 is going into the toilet. The programmers add ton's of "UNIX ONLY" stuff and things of that nature. I probably won't make any more Winboard versions because it is such a pest to undo all of their damage after every iteration. There is no example where a chess engine became a GNU project and got stronger as a project. There are examples where people have taken a GNU engine and made their own engine out of it which did get stronger. For instance: Faile --> Sjeng GnuChess --> Comet Note that both of them became private as soon as they had additional merit. I think GnuCrafty would be an epic disaster. IMO-YMMV.
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