Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 19:12:09 10/30/03
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On October 30, 2003 at 21:40:24, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On October 30, 2003 at 17:10:25, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On October 30, 2003 at 14:32:08, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I don't understand why ChessMaster is allowed to use a Kure book (general.ctg)
>>>in the SSDF testing.
>>>
>>>Last time this happened (with Gromit) it was specifically said by Alex Kure
>>>that it was _not_ allowed to use the Fritz books to test anything other
>>>than Fritz. So why is ChessMaster using it now? Did Kure give permission
>>>(which I seriously doubt)?
>>>
>>>IMHO using the ChessBase learner for ChessMaster is also very questionable.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>
>>
>>I agree to both of your points.
>>
>>If Kure does not allow one of its books to be used, it is unfair to let CM9000
>>use it.
>>
>>CM9000 is not a ChessBase product, so it is unfair to allow the engine to use
>>the ChessBase book learning system.
>>
>>Thank you for bringing it to our attention. I'm extremely surprised that the
>>SSDF guys do something that is clearly against the spirit of their list.
>
>If they are going to test it, the only alternative is to use no book at all.
>ChessMaster does not recognize its own book when played using auto232 as a
>Winboard engine.
>
>I think it is a sort of desperation move by the SSDF because they are sick and
>tired of the question "Why don't they ever test ChessMaster?"
It is still extremely unfair for the other programs.
Instead of giving CM9000 not one but TWO important unfair advantage, what about
not giving any advantage at all???
It is my understanding that neither Johan nor the ChessMaster manufacturer
(don't even know who it is now, it has changed so many times) have helped the
SSDF to get a decent setup for CM9000.
So why in hell give CM9000 such favors???
Christophe
>Of course, it will never answer the question about how strong is ChessMaster,
>since ChessMaster + Kure book != ChessMaster + CM book.
>
>Finally, the test methodology means that you will have to have *BOTH* products
>(CM & ChessBase) if you want to play with a similar getup to what they are
>testing.
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