Author: Luis Smith
Date: 01:06:09 10/31/03
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On October 31, 2003 at 01:43:15, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >On October 31, 2003 at 00:33:11, Luis Smith wrote: > >>Also note that Shredder 7.04 wasn't "out of the box" >>It was a download patch, with perhaps different settings or bug fixes. Is that >>an "unfair advantage". I would be suprised if Stephan reccomended(sp?) those >to Tony and SSDF. > >Uh, why wouldn't he? Moreover, it's a free update for Shredder 7 that was >done by Stefan himself. Johan suggested that the SKR settings be used, so why shouldn't they? The author reccomends(sp?) them. Do a CCC search on "Johan De Koning" its under one of those threads. He hasn't posted much. > >>Crafty, Gromit, and other engines were allowed to use general.ctg, you weren't >>calling SSDF on that one either. > >You are wrong. There was a big complaint about Gromit, with a big complaint >from Alex Kure, and the SSDF agreed it should not be done again. And now >they're breaking that promise. I didn't know about Gromit. I don't understand why Alexander would have a say (he is a good book maker) because they own the program. Even if it was given to them. Its SSDF's call not Alexanders. They aren't paid to test, its only for fun. They should be able to use any book they want. > >>Besides rules and traditions change IMO this is a good thing. Most users of >>these engines usually don't use default settings, so it makes sense to test the >>popular ones. > >You are wrong. Most users do use the defaults. But I wouldn't mind the SSDF >testing an engine with tweaked settings. I do seriously object to an engine >being tested when it actually consists of _two_ commercial packages. Everyday or so a thread pops up in this forum asking where they can get the SKR settings for chessmaster. The only testers I know of that use the defaults are Sarah and Leo. Others such as Surak, Sedat, Kurt & Rolf use those settings, as well as many other people who run single tournaments (as well as myself) As far as two commercial packages is concerned, it is speculated (you even posted yourself) that UCI engines are seriously hampered when run under Chessbase GUI, something about hash IIRC. It won't be playing at full strength. Besides what does it matter what GUI it is tested under, as long as it gets tested? I don't understand how it is a conflict of interest, maybe I am naive but it might just up the sales of both programs, who knows? > >-- >GCP
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