Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 08:09:40 10/31/03
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On October 31, 2003 at 10:54:04, Uri Blass wrote:
>On October 31, 2003 at 10:40:04, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 2003 at 02:40:26, Johan de Koning wrote:
>>
>>>The SSDF is allowed to test anything they want.
>>>That's the bottom line, even though it is the top line in this case.
>>
>>In that case, I'd be nice to have Deep Sjeng 1.5 tested under Shredder 7
>>Classic (UCI) with the Shredder7.bkt and identical book and EGTB settings
>>as Shredder 7.04 is using.
>>
>>I'm sure it would do well. The result would be pure garbage, but apparently
>>that wouldn't stop you.
>>
>>--
>>GCP
>
>I do not think that the result is going to be pure garbage and if you ask them
>to do it they should do it.
>
>They should only not write Deep Sjeng in the rating list because it may be
>misleading but if they write
>Team B 2700 and write notes to the list
>
>Team B consists Deep Sjeng and Shredder7.04's book then I fail to see the
>problem.
>
>Uri
>Uri
You fail to see the problem because you do not understand the spirit of the SSDF
list.
The SSDF list is not a human rating list.
The SSDF list is not an advanced players (human+computer) rating list.
The SSDF list is not a "hybrid software" rating list (program X + program Y).
The SSDF guys are not trying to find what could be the strongest combination of
hardware and software. For example they would not use hardware A and program A
to play the opening, hardware B and program B to play the middlegame, and
hardware C running program C in the endgame.
The problem here is that they are starting to do that, and they did not even
notice that they were opening a very dangerous door.
They are using opening book A with book learner B and engine C. A and B from one
company, C from another company.
The SSDF has always tried to rate PRODUCTS (free or not) relative to each other.
The question that we want the SSDF to answer is: "how good is ChessMaster 9000
relative to the products they have already tested?".
The question is not "What rating could be achieved by a cyborg composed of parts
taken from ChessBase and other parts taken from ChessMaster 9000?".
Christophe
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