Author: Ed Schröder
Date: 08:21:32 10/31/03
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On October 31, 2003 at 06:02:33, Luis Smith wrote: >On October 31, 2003 at 05:45:38, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>On October 31, 2003 at 04:27:54, Luis Smith wrote: >> >>>>I have to agree with your criticism. I was delighted to see the SSDF initiative, >>>>but this is the wrong way of doing things and it does more harm than good. It's >>>>better not to test this wonderful chess program than doing it this way. >>> >>>I disagree. >>> >>>What do you mean by "It's better not to test this wonderful chess program than >>>doing it this way."? Do you mean because of the book? I saw no one crying >>>"unfair" when Crafty used general.ctg. Besides the book must be 2-3 years old >>>by now, and I am sure everyone has already optimized against it. Perhaps Johan >>>can grab a few PGN's and let SSDF make it into a book? Would that satisfy all >>>that critics? >>The SSDF policy is out-of-the-box testing, everything else is wrong. Own book, >>own learner stuff. This only represents the true strength of a program. >So does out "out-of-the-box" testing include Shredder 7.04? This is okay. Keyword: public availability. Also the software should be the total work of the programmer or programmer team (company). It can't be the case 5-10-20% of its strength (opening book + learning) comes from another source (programmer, company). That's not right. >>>>Suppose CM9000 will top the list in the next edition then I foresee the longest >>>>thread in the history of CCC. Suppose it does real bad it will cause a similar >>>>stir. >> >>>I disagree here also, when they announced the testing of it there wasn't as much >>>of a stir as I thought there would be. There might be a few "Yays!" or "Johan >>>is the greatest programmer ever" but I don't think it will cause much of a >>>rutkus. >>Well, tell me if you want to put your money on it and how much :) > >haha sorry Ed you're asking the wrong person, I'm broke =O) Good excuse :) >>>>Unfortunately good intentions not always guarantee wise decisions, perhaps we >>>>have pressured them too much. >> >> >>>Perhaps so, at one time I thought SSDF was an organization who only had >>>Chessbase products top the list. Now seeing that they are testing TheKing 3.23 >>>especially with SKR settings they have shown they have different intentions. >> >>Agreed, that's the good part, it shutdowns the conspiracy theorists. > >Yep, after a while I was believing it myself. > > >> >>My best, >> >>Ed >How come the SSDF hasn't tested other versions of Rebel (besides Century 4)? Is >it because of the past problems that you've had with them? Is the new Rebel >even capable of auto-testing? I did not ask. The new Rebel 12 will play. My best, Ed
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