Author: Uri Blass
Date: 13:45:09 10/31/03
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On October 31, 2003 at 15:30:36, Sandro Necchi wrote: >On October 30, 2003 at 17:58:29, Uri Blass wrote: > >>On October 30, 2003 at 17:10:25, Christophe Theron wrote: >> >>>On October 30, 2003 at 14:32:08, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote: >>> >>>>Hi, >>>> >>>>I don't understand why ChessMaster is allowed to use a Kure book (general.ctg) >>>>in the SSDF testing. >>>> >>>>Last time this happened (with Gromit) it was specifically said by Alex Kure >>>>that it was _not_ allowed to use the Fritz books to test anything other >>>>than Fritz. So why is ChessMaster using it now? Did Kure give permission >>>>(which I seriously doubt)? >>>> >>>>IMHO using the ChessBase learner for ChessMaster is also very questionable. >>>> >>>>-- >>>>GCP >>> >>> >>> >>>I agree to both of your points. >>> >>>If Kure does not allow one of its books to be used, it is unfair to let CM9000 >>>use it. >>> >>>CM9000 is not a ChessBase product, so it is unfair to allow the engine to use >>>the ChessBase book learning system. >>> >>>Thank you for bringing it to our attention. I'm extremely surprised that the >>>SSDF guys do something that is clearly against the spirit of their list. >>> >>> >>> >> Christophe >> >> > >Hi, > >CM9000 is not a chessbase product but I think that the ssdf should be allowed to >>test every combination of engine, book and learning. > >I totally disagree. First of all they do not buy those programs but they get >them for testing and this means that this is done under agreed ways... I agree that they should not use something they did not buy for testing in a way that was not agreed. > >I will not allows anybody to test my book without my approval. > > >> >>After all the interesting question is what is the best thing that people can buy >>and if people can buy chessmaster together with Fritz book and get something >>better than it is important to know it. > >Well, even if this is true it must be agreed with the owners of the programs >which are given to SSSDF for specific testing and not for mixed testing. You >should not forget that mixed testing could damage one company sells, so this >should be allowed by them. I understand your opinion but I think that at least people who payed for something should be allowed to test it in the way that they like and they only need to give correct information. > >> >>SSDF have not enough time to test every combination and this is the reason that >>they should prefer the programmer choice in case that he suggests something(I >>guess that in this case Johan suggested nothing so they are free to test it in >>the way that they want to do it) > >No, see above. > >> >>I think that book makers should not be allowed to forbid people to test their >>book with another program. > >Why shall I? > >> >>They earn enough from not allowing other people to use their book in world >>championship or from the fact that people know that the ssdf leader used their >>book. > >How do you know I or other people making openings book get enough money? I admit that I do not know how much money you and other people who make opening book get. I still think that at least people who pay for programs should be allowed to publish results of every combination that they payed for. Uri
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