Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:34:59 11/01/03
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On October 31, 2003 at 13:52:08, Dann Corbit wrote:
>On October 31, 2003 at 06:48:22, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>
>>On October 31, 2003 at 06:28:00, Francesco Di Tolla wrote:
>>>If the original book cannot be converted, my solution to this problem is very
>>>simple:
>>
>>Apparently the whole argument is pointless, since the book can be converted:
>>
>>http://www.talkchess.com/forums/1/message.html?324458
>>
>>so why not using it?
>
>Even this may not really be a solution. What I mean is that programs do not
>just blindly follow their book. They look at statistics in the book and often
>at some point deviate, even though something is in the book.
>
>Won/Lost/Drawn figures. Elo of the player making the move. The centipawn
>computer evaluation. All of these things can be considered. Would the
>decisions TheKing makes be identical to those made by the CB API?
You might be overlooking the fact that the GUI actually makes the book
decisions, not the engine. So it is most likely that things would be
_exactly_ the same. IE in Crafty, you know what I look at to choose a
move. If I run under the CB gui, and use their book, my book selection
code never gets executed. The GUI chooses the moves until there are no
more then I get to search. If you turn off the chessbase GUI book, Crafty
_can_ use its own book. But nobody does this...
>
>I think the experiment is interesting. I do have one small problem with it,
>which is that it is highly likely to be misinterpreted by the buying public.
>
>On the other hand, if someone does have both products, they would be able to set
>up a system that plays like the SSDF. So they would have measurements for that
>sort of thing.
>
>This is the problem that I see. If CM does spectacularly, we will see it on the
>CM 10K box. If CM does poorly, they have an out ("It wasn't our book.").
>
>I think that they will probably be honest enough to state the conditions
>somewhere in those tiny weasel words, but nobody reads them anyway.
>
>Did you know that the drain cleaner's weasel word collection says on it (among
>other things): "Do not ingest this product."
>
>I firmly believe that anyone smart enough to know what ingest means knows that
>you aren't supposed to eat the drain cleaner.
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