Author: Chessfun
Date: 21:55:00 11/01/03
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On November 01, 2003 at 02:49:37, Mike S. wrote: >On October 31, 2003 at 22:35:22, Chessfun wrote: > >>On October 31, 2003 at 21:08:32, Mike S. wrote: >> >>>On October 31, 2003 at 20:21:30, Chessfun wrote: >>> >>>>(...) > >>"(...) So, if you want a possible translations >>within the GUI's, go always from the Chessmaster-Setting to Malin and not the >>other way around :-)" > >Yes; that last remark is the key sentence regarding this. IOW, the proper way to >design alternative settings is, create the settings in the CM8000/9000 GUI >first. For the conversion, usually engine log files are used to see, which >values are really sent to the engine by the CM GUI. These values are written in >the Wb2Uci.eng then. > >Too bad that Wb2Uci doesn't work for you... I had some difficulties too, >expecially in *Win98* which I use still on the other computer. I suspect there >may be something wrong with King's hash size in this OS using Wb2Uci (not in >WinME). But I didn't test that yet (it's on my todo list... :-)). Currently I still use InBetween which works fine though it does of course mean other engines won't run. And also that it's more of a long winded setup. >Brian Kostick and others of the CCC people had done some efforts to create a >standard format for the Wb2Uci King settings in Fritz, using the load/save >function of the F3 dialogue. Unfortunately this didn't raise much interest as it >seems. But I use it. My Fritz .param file for CM9_SKR looks like this: > >[TheKing323] >My Pawn (myp)=100 >My Knight (myn)=100 >My Bishop (myb)=100 >My Rook (myr)=100 >My Queen (myq)=101 >My Control of Center (mycc)=105 >My Mobility (mymob)=110 >My King Safety (myks)=155 >My Passed Pawns (mypp)=100 >My Pawns Weakness (mypw)=100 >Contempt for Draw (cfd)=0 >Strength of Play (sop)=100 >Attacker/Defender (avd)=-2 >Randomness (rnd)=0 >Opposing Pawn (opp)=100 >Opposing Knight (opn)=100 >Opposing Bishop (opb)=100 >Opposing Rook (opr)=100 >Opposing Queen (opq)=100 >Opposing Control of Center (opcc)=105 >Opposing Mobility (opmob)=110 >Opposing King Safety (opks)=155 >Opposing Passed Pawns (oppp)=100 >Opposing Pawns Weakness (oppw)=100 >Selective Search (sel)=12 >Max Search Depth (md)=99 >Logfile=1 > >The CM GUI itself is a good testing environment for WinBoard-Eniges IMO, because >it's possible to assign a CM book to engines which have none (i.e. play a match >or tournament where all use CM9000.obk). With King there is a top engine >available to test against, Ruffian 1.0.1 etc. too, for WB. engine testing and >comparison. Runs great, with the exception that there's no reversed color option >for the opening variants used. I prefer that over Wb2Uci in general (or simply >use WinBoard even), although the variety of opponents is limited then and some >of the strongest unavailable. I guess the new Win-Rebel 12 should also run in >CM8000/9000 (?), being a WB. engine. There were no reports so far about that >AFAIK. > >I use "CM9K_modified", this is simply 32 MB hash, Sel.=12 and king safety >settings 150/150. Rest default. This allows easy documentation :-)) but at the >same time, I believe that I get ~90% of the improvement potential by that. My >earlier experiments with CM_Brain were not very successfull. Often, only larger >hash and Sel. 12 is used in ratings lists, but as you know most strong settings >have the increased king safety values in common, which I consider to be >important. > >An example: > >Drei_Chessmeister_9K.CMT 2003 > > 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 >1 CM9_8777 * 1 0 1 1 1 0 1 5.0/7 16.50 >2 Delfi 4.1 0 * ½ ½ 1 1 1 1 5.0/7 13.75 >3 CM9K_modified 1 ½ * 0 0 1 1 1 4.5/7 >4 CM9 SKR 0 ½ 1 * 1 0 ½ 1 4.0/7 >5 Ruffian 1.0.1 0 0 1 0 * 1 1 0 3.0/7 9.50 >6 Crafty 18.15 0 0 0 1 0 * 1 1 3.0/7 7.50 >7 WBNimzo 2000b 1 0 0 ½ 0 0 * ½ 2.0/7 >8 Yace Paderborn 0 0 0 0 1 0 ½ * 1.5/7 > >40/20:00 on P3/700, own books (Crafty with custom book), but here CM9K_mod. used >128 MB hash IIRC, although this probably made not much difference. > >Btw. unlike previous Chessmaster versions, there was no Chessmaster 9000 sold in >the normal computer & electronics shops in germany and german speaking >countries, for the first time! I have my own theory what the reason for this may >have been :-)) > >Let's wait and see. In Canada it was available as always at EB and I'd expect no changes here till CB open an office ;-) Thanks for your detailed post Mike. Sarah.
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