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Subject: Re: An interesting problem on the playchess.com server

Author: B FINKLER

Date: 21:55:12 11/01/03

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Mr Lieske thinks he is a "compcheat hunter". He used to do the same at
Kasparovchess.com. He became a sysop at playchess.com in the last week or so. I
would suggest talking with another sysop and explain your troubles with Mr
Lieske.

On November 01, 2003 at 18:14:39, Djordje Vidanovic wrote:

>Hi CCC members,
>
>I suppose that quite a few of you play on the playchess.com server.  I have
>played there lots of games from time to time: more than 2,500 games at blitz
>levels, about 1,400 games at lightning levels and over 1,000 games with my chess
>programs, mainly testing opening books.  Of course, I registered quoting my
>Fritz 8 licence number and had no problems till a couple of days ago when or so
>when I noticed that I had been downranked to Pawn meaning that I could not take
>part in any tourneys and could not even let my engines play in tournaments.
>Tonight (it is Friday night here in Europe) I had plenty of time to kill so I
>decided to clear things up with the Sysop on playchess.com (ChessBase owned ICS)
>-- named Holger Lieske.  I asked him what could be the matter with my sudden
>demotion and he said that I should put down my real name (which had been there
>all the time), the name of my country (which had also been there all the time,
>regardless of the change of the name of the country (it is now called Serbia &
>Montenegro instead of Yugoslavia, but the flag is still the same), as well as my
>email address.  The email address had not been required at the time I first
>started playing on playchess.com.  Anyway, I did comply with the request and
>asked Mr. Lieske when I would be promoted to the rank of Knight thus reclaiming
>my right to play in tournaments and the like.  (BTW, I had been a Rook for quite
>a while before).
>
>I got the answer that he, the Sysop, had to consult a colleague and that I would
>get the answer soon.  But I never got the reply, because after a little while
>Mr. Lieske said that his colleague was quite tied up and that I should wait.  He
>also said that I had provided him with everything needed...  Mr. Lieske was even
>more informative saying that I might have been deprived of my full rights for
>having been abusive, having used racist language, having been reported by
>someone for my improper conduct on the server, etc.  After I pointed out that
>the personal data that have boxes describing manners, fairness and similar did
>not list any of the mentioned, he clammed up.
>
>I said that I would provide him with my Fritz license number again if needed,
>and that he might look up some URLs where he would be able to easily check on my
>real identity  and find my photos, find out who I was, and I also stated that my
>University had a file on me on its web pages.  I offered to talk to him about
>any problems regarding my identity.
>
>He said that I should sign off and come back later on.   I promised that I
>would, and I will.  Meanwhile, as I had a very strong gut feeling that there was
>something strange, I hastened to post here in time.
>
>My slightly paranoid thinking goes like this:  did this strange behaviour on the
>playchess.com merely coincide with my newly edited personal notes (sort of
>fingernotes, just like on FICS or ICC) saying that I was on the Ruffian/Arena
>team that had won the Dutch Open and that I was Ruffian's book author?  I hope
>that the new notes did not mean a thing and that my suspicion is utterly
>unfounded....
>
>Will keep you posted.  Sorry for the outburst but I feel very frustrated, after
>having spent almost a whole hour on playchess, sitting like a dunce there.
>
>Djordje
>
>PS:  I have waited to find out the final reply.  And, I can tell you that Mr.
>Lieske, the ChessBase Sysop told me:  we have grounds to believe that you played
>with computer assistance...
>
>I have to say this in public:  I have _never_ ever played with any computer
>assistance.  I have played lots of games on different servers with lots of
>strong players but never using a program.  No fun there.  This was just
>incredibly foul, stupid and groundless.  When I asked Mr. Lieske about when and
>against whom I had played using a computer program (how is it possible in games
>at 3 minutes?), he said that he did not know.
>
>So much for ChessBase.



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