Author: Rajen Gupta
Date: 12:03:57 11/02/03
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On November 02, 2003 at 14:34:13, margolies,marc wrote: >i have two points to make. >1) g-c p. is correct because a fair tournament is not held on one machine >anyway. this is because of resource allocation issues. and while we can produce >verifiable rsults in engine-engine matches on a single machine those results are >not reflective of the same engine alone on the machine playing-- that is what >most users want to find out. >2) if chessmaster's engine suffers without its own book under the cb interface >for a single machine match, then I say "so what?" chessmaster gui is rigged >intentionally to use another engines resources during a same machine match and >no honest td would allow it to function as such in a engine-engine single >machine match. Therefore any handicap the engine suffers is a result of the >designer's cheating, not the tournament director's. >as a corollary, do we know much about the tuning involved in chessmaster's book, >if there is any? > i cant quite understand what you are saying: we have 2 different but identical machines; on the one we have lets say shredder704; the most powerful engine on earth in its own gui using its own optimised opening book it is at every advantage as it is otimally set up! on the other machine we have an engine which using a makeshift arrangenment; is made to work under an alien GUI; (no matter what anyone says there is bound to be some perfromance penalty in such a set up, however mild!)its own opening books dont work; it hence uses non optimised but high quality opening books which have not been produced for any particular engine, but is nevertheless high quality; (i fail to understand how exactly is the king using another engines resources?) for some reason the programmers claim that the use of a non optimised opening book which belongs to no programme in particular would give theKING an unfair advantage (after drumming it into our heads all these years that an engine can only do well if it has its own opening book); my solution to the above is simple; use the same opening book for both engines; one that is high quality and yet not optimised for that particular programme; thus if shredder704 were to play the KING use either the junior.ctg or fritz8.ctg (or anyother ob) for both; this way both would have the advantage or disadvantage of using a non optimised opening book! as one is not selling or making money with the above i dont see why the authors permission is needed! one is just testing the product and publishing the results with full details of the test methodology published!
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