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Subject: Re: solution to the contoversy of opening books

Author: Uri Blass

Date: 00:55:24 11/03/03

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On November 03, 2003 at 03:53:16, Uri Blass wrote:

>On November 03, 2003 at 03:35:59, Uri Blass wrote:
>
>>On November 03, 2003 at 03:27:10, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>
>>>On November 02, 2003 at 23:01:08, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 02, 2003 at 19:38:33, Gian-Carlo Pascutto wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 02, 2003 at 19:34:23, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>You are only addressing 1/2 of the issue?  If one author can work on the book
>>>>>>>>for three different programs, I don't see a problem with a 4th program using
>>>>>>>>that same book.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>It would not be a problem if that book is indeed sold with or available
>>>>>>>as a free update for that program.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>--
>>>>>>>GCP
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Somehow this reasoning escapes me.  Why does this matter?  IE Crafty ships
>>>>>>on a chessbase CD.  I don't think it reasonable for me to use the ChessBase
>>>>>>book in an event.
>>>>>
>>>>>I can't buy Crafty and get the Fritz book can I?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Yes...  You buy fritz and you get the fritz book _and_ crafty, all on the
>>>>same CD...
>>>
>>>You're buying Fritz. The product name is Fritz. If you play with that book,
>>>the SSDF should list 'Fritz', very simple.
>>>
>>>--
>>>GCP
>>
>>The product include more than one engine so I see no reason why only one should
>>be allowed to be tested.
>>
>>It is chessbase's decision to allow Crafty to use the kure book.
>>They could develop books when only one engine can use them.
>>
>>Uri
>
>Note that for me it is interesting to see rating of engines with the stupid book
>and no learning.
>
>The stupid book means that the program always change the first move and use no
>book.
>
>It may be interesting to know how much better is the kure book relative to the
>stupid book and it may be interesting if chessbase test one of the programs
>also with the stupid book(with exactly 40 games in every match).
>
>My guess is that the difference between the stupid book and the kure book is
>between 150 and 200 elo but it is only a guess.

I change my guess to difference of between 100 and 150 elo.

Uri



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