Author: Uri Blass
Date: 01:22:49 11/03/03
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On November 02, 2003 at 22:47:33, Pierre Chevalier wrote:
>On November 02, 2003 at 15:26:17, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>
>>On November 02, 2003 at 14:56:57, Pierre Chevalier wrote:
>>
>>>On November 02, 2003 at 09:55:08, Kurt Utzinger wrote:
>>>
>>>>Without its good opening book, Junior 8 is sometimes playing like
>>>>a toothless tiger. Often seen in our NBE 2003 tournament, please
>>>>refer to our homepage "Kurt & Rolf Chess", section NBE 2003
>>>>http://www.utzingerkurt.com Below a commented example.
>>>>Kurt
>>>>
>>>>[Event "NBE 2003 Ath 1.3/64 120'/60"]
>>>>[Site "Zurich"]
>>>>[Date "2003.10.31"]
>>>>[Round "5.7"]
>>>>[White "Junior 8"]
>>>>[Black "The King 3.23 SKR"]
>>>>[Result "0-1"]
>>>>[ECO "A20"]
>>>>[Annotator "Utzinger,K"]
>>>>[PlyCount "100"]
>>>>
>>>>1. c4 {Start of the game / Partiestart} 1... e5 2. d4 exd4 3. Qxd4 Nc6 4. Qe3+
>>>>{Junior 8 has chosen a bad opening line but with this move the program does
>>>>not show much chess understanding / Junior 8 hat eine schlechte Variante
>>>>gewahelt, doch dieser Zug schlaegt dem Fass den Boden aus} 4... Be7 5. Nc3 Nf6
>>>>6. Qd2 O-O 7. Nf3 Bb4 {With the threat Ne4; Black has the initiative / Mit der
>>>>Drohung Se4; Schwarz besitzt die Initiative} 8. Qd3 d5 9. cxd5 Nxd5 10. Bd2
>>>>Nxc3 11. bxc3 {Again a bad decision allowing Black to keep the strong bishop.
>>>>Junior 8 should have exchanged some pieces to minimize Black's advantage /
>>>>Erneut ein schlechter Entscheid, der dem Gegner den starken Laeufer
>>>>ueberlaesst. Junior 8 haette einige Figuren tauschen sollen, um seine Stellung
>>>>zu entlasten} 11... Bc5 12. e4 Qe7 13. Be2 Re8 {And now it is Black to have
>>>>substantial advantage / Nun ist Schwarz deutlich im Vorteil} 14. O-O Qxe4 15.
>>>>Rfe1 Bg4 16. Qb5 Qd5 {
>>>>With the threat Bxf2+ followed by Qxb5 / Droth Lxf2+ gefolgt von Dxb5} 17. Be3
>>>>Rxe3 {! This nice sacrifice is the best way for Black to increase its
>>>>advantage / Dieses nette Opfer ist der einfachste Weg, um den Vorteil zu
>>>>vergroessern} 18. fxe3 Bxf3 19. gxf3 Re8 20. Rad1 Qg5+ 21. Kh1 Qxe3 22. Qxb7
>>>>Re6 23. Qc8+ Bf8 24. Bf1 Qxc3 25. Rxe6 Qxf3+ 26. Kg1 Qg4+ 27. Kf2 Qxd1 28. Re8
>>>>Qd6 29. Bd3 g6 30. Be4 Nd4 31. Qh3 Ne6 32. Qg3 Qd2+ 33. Kf1 Qxa2 {
>>>>Black has reached a won position / Schwarz hat Gewinnstellung erreicht} 34. Qe5
>>>>Qa4 35. Ra8 Qd1+ 36. Kf2 Qd2+ 37. Kf1 Qe3 38. Re8 a5 39. h4 a4 40. Rxe6 Qh3+
>>>>41. Bg2 Qxe6 42. Qxe6 fxe6 43. Be4 Be7 44. h5 gxh5 45. Bd3 Kg7 46. Bc4 e5 47.
>>>>Ke2 h4 48. Kf3 a3 49. Be6 Bb4 50. Bc4 Kh6 0-1
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Junior 8 vs The King 3.23 SKR (NBE 2003, round 5.7)
>>>>[D]r1bqkbnr/pppp1ppp/2n5/8/2P5/4Q3/PP2PPPP/RNB1KBNR b KQkq - 04
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Junior 8 vs The King 3.23 SKR (NBE 2003, round 5.7)
>>>>[D]r3r1k1/ppp2ppp/2n5/1Qbq4/6b1/2P1BN2/P3BPPP/R3R1K1 b - - 0 17
>>>You are putting Junior at a disadvantage by asking it to play 1 c4.
>>>Junior is designed to play 1 e4. There is a huge difference between the moves.
>>>1 e4 leads to more tactical situations in which Junior excels.
>>
>> Don't you think that 1.e4 is in principle for all computer
>> programs the best choice?
>> Kurt
>Yes I think 1 e4 is the best choice for a program.
>1 e4 leads to tactics which computers handle well.
I think that you forget that the testing is comp-comp and not comp-human.
Another point is that I do not understand why people do comparison to humans.
You could also say:
"I think that 1.d4 is the best choice for a human.
1.e4 leads to tactical positions which humans do not know to play well."
Uri
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