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Subject: Re: Fair conditions?!

Author: Tony Hedlund

Date: 05:55:27 11/03/03

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On October 31, 2003 at 19:53:05, Harald Faber wrote:

>On October 31, 2003 at 00:03:05, Mike S. wrote:
>
>>On October 30, 2003 at 22:21:39, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>
>>>(...)
>>
>>>Instead of giving CM9000 TWO unfair advantages it should:
>>>* either not be tested at all
>>
>>Would you call it FAIR when a major competitor of yours wouldn't be tested at
>>all??
>
>
>When the competitor does not the least to be able to be tested, well, for me
>this looks as if the competitor does not want to be tested at all.
>
>
>>>* or be tested without opening (and without book learning of course)
>>
>>Would you call it FAIR to test a major competitor without opening book when
>>others can use books??
>
>
>When the competitor - a commercial btw - does not provide nor manage to build an
>opening book for testing - isn't it his own fault? Should the lazyness and
>convenience be honoured by spending some good allround book?
>
>
>>Are you demanding to replace something what you call unfair advantages, by
>>unfair DISADVANTAGES?
>
>
>SSDF tests "out of the box". At least they did so. So FAIR testing of CM 9000
>would be testing in CM GUI with CM book. Testing in a different GUI with a
>different book is NOT out of the box.
>
>
>>The conditions SSDF uses reflect *typical King 3.23 usage* among computer
>>chessfans.
>
>
>How do you know?
>
>
>>When general.ctg was used by SSDF for some somewhat weaker freeware engine
>>tests, I don't remember any "nervouseness" about it :-))
>
>
>Then your memory fails. There HAS been a discussion when Gromit was tested with
>general.ctg and Alex Kure complained about it.

We started to test Gromit with a fritzX.ctg book and people complained about it.
Then we switched to general.ctg and the complains stopped.

Tony

>>Regards,
>>Mike Scheidl



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