Author: Mridul Muralidharan
Date: 08:15:17 11/03/03
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On November 03, 2003 at 11:03:31, Robert Hyatt wrote: >On November 03, 2003 at 10:30:59, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: > >>On November 03, 2003 at 10:26:44, Robert Hyatt wrote: >> >>>On November 03, 2003 at 09:54:43, Johan Hutting wrote: >>> >>>>On November 03, 2003 at 09:26:22, Mridul Muralidharan wrote: >>>> >>>>>Hi, >>>>> >>>>> Recently I came to know that Vincent Diepeveen has been banned from CCC >>>>>without explaination. >>>>>Especially before , during and after an important event like world champs ! >>>>>Is this true ? and if yes , why ? >>>> >>>>It is ridiculous to ban someone without notifying him/her and not mentioning the >>>>reason of the ban when that is requested. I just spoke with Vincent and he >>>>confirmed the story. Can one of the moderators also confirm this? >>>> >>>>If it really happened as Vincent described then IMNSHO we need a new set of >>>>moderators. I don't mind them banning people, I do mind them banning people for >>>>no apparent reason at all or simply refusing to give one. >>>> >>>>Regards, >>>>Johan >>> >>> >>>I'm not a moderator, but I am certain that all current moderators do >>>not operate like this. I have been a moderator at least three times >>>in the past, and we _always_ notified someone if they were banned, or >>>even if one of their posts was removed. I believe that the current >>>group does the same... >> >> >>Yes , if the reasons are valid - definitely wrongdoers have to be punished. >>But it must not be an autocratic system - sufficient warning and time to explain >>ones position must be given. >>Looks like even that was not done .... >> > >That I _know_ is wrong. IE I believe that _every_ group of moderators >has had to threaten Vincent with a ban if he didn't stop his ridiculous >forms of posting. You said it ! For some offensive post with bad language/derogatory remarks , etc it makes sense. Even then , as you mention - he was threatened with a ban. This particular post was positively aneamic compared to , not only Vincent's , standards but also anyone's including yours :) > >Vincent knows what he is doing. He knows it is improper. So long as he >gets away with it, he won't stop. Have you noticed how much quieter and >politer it has been for a few days? > I wonder why most did not know about the ban until now ... ;) On a more serious note : I dont have any objection to the ban (I definitely dont support it - and would strongly request the moderators to revoke it) , but it was the way the ban was enforced and also for the friviolous reasons for which it was enforced. If it was for "past" posts - then the he must have been notified that those were not acceptable. Not take a summation of past and present behaviour to decide. > >> >>Mridul
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