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Subject: Re: Can your engine find the draw?

Author: Steven J. Brann

Date: 15:12:17 11/03/03

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On November 03, 2003 at 10:12:39, Mihaly Szalai wrote:

>[D]8/p7/k6P/1pKbp3/1P2p3/4P1r1/4B3/8 w - - 0 1
>
>And how fast?
>1. h7! Rh3 2. Bg4! is the clue.
>
>Thanks
>Mihaly

Great position!  The draw is illusive.  CM9000 on a P4-3.0G, default personality
with SS=12 and 128M hash initially found 1.Bxb5+.  Even after forcing 1.h7, it
took almost an hour to see the draw.  Note the similar score to other posters
just before the draw was seen.... -1.84.  Did they look deep enough?

Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
0:00	1/7	-2.21	22402		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Kc7 5.Kxe5 Re7+ 6.Kd5
0:00	1/8	-2.20	44629		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Bc2 Rh3 6.Bxe4
0:00	1/9	-2.16	73317		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Kb6 5.Kxe4 Rh5 6.Bd7 a6
0:00	2/10	-2.22	160813		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Bc2 Kb6 6.Bxe4 Kb5
					7.Bg6 Rh6
0:00	3/11	-2.19	289954		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Bc2 Kb6 6.Bxe4 Kb5
					7.Bg6 Rg5
0:01	4/12	-2.25	588838		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Kxe4 Kb6 6.Kd5 Rg5
					7.Bd7 Kc7 8.Be6
0:02	5/13	-2.18	1120658		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Kxe4 Kb6 6.Kd5 Rg5
					7.Bd7 a6 8.Ba4 Rh5 9.Bc2
0:05	6/14	-2.26	2066607		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Kxe4 Kb6 6.Kd5 Rg5
					7.Bd7 a6 8.Ba4 Rf5 9.Bd7 Rf7
0:10	7/15	-2.18	4169379		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Kxe4 Kb6 6.Kd5 Rg5
					7.Bd7 Kc7 8.Be6 Kd8 9.Ke4 Ke7
0:24	8/16	-2.20	9928304		1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh5 5.Kxe4 Kb6 6.Kd5 Rg5
					7.Kd6 a6 8.Kd5 Rf5 9.Bc2 Rf2 10.Bd3
0:52	9/17	-2.12	21899587	1...Rh3 2.Bxb5+ Kb7 3.Kxd5 Rxh7
					4.Ba4 Rh3 5.Kxe4 Kc7 6.Kxe5 Rxe3+
					7.Kd4 Rh3 8.Be8 Kd6 9.Bg6 Rb3 10.Kc4
					Rg3 11.Be4 Ke5
1:49	10/18	-1.90	45793027	1...Rh3 2.Bg4 Rh2 3.Kxd5 Rxh7 4.Kc6
					Rh8 5.Kc7 Rf8 6.Be6 Re8 7.Bf5 Rg8
					8.Bxe4 Rg7+ 9.Kd6 Kb6 10.Kxe5 Re7+
					11.Kd4
3:52	11/19	-1.87	93383165	1...Rh3 2.Bg4 Rh2 3.Kxd5 Rxh7 4.Kc6
					Rh8 5.Kc7 Rf8 6.Be6 Re8 7.Bf5 Rg8
					8.Bxe4 Rg7+ 9.Kd6 Kb6 10.Kxe5 Re7+
					11.Kd4 a5 12.bxa5+ Kxa5
8:16	12/20	-1.86	198579436	1...Rh3 2.Bg4 Rh2 3.Kxd5 Rxh7 4.Kc6
					Rh8 5.Kc7 Rf8 6.Be6 Re8 7.Bf5 Rg8
					8.Bxe4 Rg7+ 9.Kd6 Kb6 10.Kxe5 Re7+
					11.Kd4 Kc7 12.Bg6 Kd6
18:51	13/21	-1.84	439907969	1...Rh3 2.Bg4 Rh2 3.Kxd5 Rxh7 4.Kc6
					Rh8 5.Kc7 Rf8 6.Be6 Re8 7.Bf5 Rg8
					8.Bxe4 Rg7+ 9.Kd6 Kb6 10.Kxe5 Rg4
					11.Kf5 Rh4 12.Ke5
52:13	14/22	0.00	1167787125	1...Rh3 2.Bg4 Rh2 3.Kxd5 Rxh7 4.Kc6
					Rh8 5.Kc7 Rf8 6.Be6 Re8 7.Bh3 Rg8
					8.Bf5 Rf8 9.Be6

Steve



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