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Subject: Re: Friedel Bogus about the X3D-show *

Author: Omid David Tabibi

Date: 18:12:15 11/03/03

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On November 03, 2003 at 19:51:10, Rolf Tueschen wrote:

>I don't get it why Friedel's interview should be remarkable! Yes, it is very
>remarkable to present the main representative of one business side of the show
>and let him make bogus comments about the importance of the show.
>
>- What FRITZ is concerned we still remember the unforgettable show in Bahrain.
>It was KRAMNIK, who is the one who has won the championship in a match against
>Kasparov, who made the unbelievable commentary that he had lost his chess memory
>durin the second half of the event, which reminds us of the old fairy tales of
>1001 nights and the woman Sheherazade.
>
>- What KASPAROV is concerned we know that he is no longer the best human player,

http://www.fide.com/ratings/top.phtml

1  Kasparov, Garry  g  RUS  2830
2  Kramnik, Vladimir  g  RUS  2777
3  Anand, Viswanathan  g  IND  2766



>because he lost to KRAMNIK fair and straight, and he never was the strongest
>because there is only one candidate for that crown and his name is FISCHER.

You are a great fan of Fischer not because of chess, but because of his other
opinions (http://home.att.ne.jp/moon/fischer). This forum is hardly the place to
discuss them...



>
>- What FRIEDEL is concerned, even a study in philosophy, not to speak of
>linguistics, can hide that he is just a marketing guru and business man. He
>knows enough about chess journalism to stir up the emotions a little bit, but
>his old buddy Kasparov is no longer a serious number in World's chess.
>
>- What X3D is concerned it is ridiculous to pretend that now at last people can
>hope to be able to play "real" virtual chess. Because if people want to play
>real chess, also in 3D, nobody can stop them to play human chess in one of the
>thousands of clubs everywhere. A real chess player does not need X3D or 3D to
>play chess against a chess machine. Not to speak of chess masters who also need
>no display at all, because they can play chess like a blind just with the
>imagined pieces in his head. A virtual board for chess is unneccessary because a
>2D board on the display contains all the informations needed for the battle in
>chess. That is different for all kind of adventure games.
>
>- What the FUTURE of chess is concerned, the machines will need some further
>time to improve their play to become dangerous for real chess GM. Actually a
>motivated 2150 player from Germany, who is willing to play the biggest nonsense
>chess, can outplay a computer in chess, because the machine cannot be prepared
>for all kind of situations a smart human being can create. And nobody did ever
>pretend that chess machines are smart. No, they are fast, they are exact, but
>all this only till darkness brings complete blindness at the so called horizon
>of the machine; the maximum depth beyond which the machine can no longer see
>what will happen. Of course a human being has no limitations. His experience can
>help him see till the end of the game. Of course philosopher Friedel must plead
>for the mercy of ignorance although he knows exactly what a chess machine can do
>and what it cannot achieve. But a philosopher as a business man is in a so
>called double bind.
>
>
>- Somehow the whole event is justified because Kasparov played an incredibly
>high role in the marketing of ChessBase, the company of Friedel. So it's only
>fair that he gets anothr 1 million dollars or some such for his old age.
>
>
>Rolf



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