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Subject: Re: ssdf and autoplayer

Author: Thorsten Czub

Date: 12:38:01 11/11/98

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On November 10, 1998 at 19:11:11, Amir Ban wrote:
>Oof ...
>
>It really seems like you don't get the issue here, so I will explain:
>
>There is an issue here that is between Ed and his customers. You post on it in a
>way and style that, if a Rebel customer had the wrong impression that you are
>representing the vendor, would probably make him very angry.

And ?

>Now you are
>entitled to your opinion, but I'm concerned here that not every reader of this
>newsgroup understands that you are not related to Ed,

?? I don't get this amir. Why do I have to explain that i am NOT related to
rebel, and others don't have to explain that they are not related to
xyz company ?
Where is YOUR disclaimer for chessBase ?


>or that people read some
>things here without paying a lot of attention, and do not notice who wrote what,
>or if they do notice, two weeks later they may mix things up and remember only
>that someone, maybe Ed, yelled and snickered at them that they have to be
>victims of his war with Chessbase.


And ? If somebody is shallow, this is not my problem, or ?
Put it in the charta Amir. people reading here don't have to be shallow.
I am sure this will straighten the club. :-))

>I think Ed would not like that, because he depends on his customers for a
>living, and needs to handle them with sensitivity.

Ed always handles his customers very sensitive.
But i am not ed. I don't have customers. I am my own.

> Ok, maybe I worry too much,
>but you worry too little.

No.

> A clear disclaimer that you are not the vendor is
>needed in such a post.

Pah - here in germany we don't write with disclaimers. Unbelievable.
Which country is this where you post with disclaimers ?

>>Do you have a disclaimer Amir ?
>>"I am not objective to the topic/the vendor because I am in business with them"
>>would be the fitting disclaimer for you, wouldn't it ? :-))

>This is an impertinent reply, but let's ignore this because you have a problem
>in understanding the subject.

Why is YOU asking ME for a disclaimer a polite and accurate request, and
me asking YOU for a disclaimer an IMPERTINENT REPLY ?

I don't get this, i thought 1 is 1. Now i see, 1 is different.
Your one seems to be much better. Where can i order such a 1 ?


>I'm not for or against anything, and the topic is irrelevant. I'm talking as the
>moderator here and I'm worried about commercial interests (Ed's in this case).

When you are talking as a moderator here, when beeing a normal member posting
here, than you need a disclaimer or a message: i am saying this as a moderator.
If you don't mark you words with a disclaimer or header, than you will cause
misunderstandings.
If you post this as a moderator (it looks you say you did) i am asking myself
where in the charta is written that the moderator is saving commercial interests
? I thought this is a private club for private persons.

>You know, some people actually make a living through their customers and this is
>more than talk for them.

Right. Looks like you know what you post, because you are not a private too.

I will not and nowhere and never post with a disclaimer.
This is idiotic.


>Two months ago there was a similar thing when you started telling CSTal
>customers to go jump in a lake. I was dumbfounded and considered deleting those
>posts on the ground that they may damage Oxford business. I didn't then, because

Nobody asks you to do what you do.
You are not authorized to do so.



>(1) I know that CSTal is not a serious business, and Oxford revenues come from
>other products (2) You are connected to Chris and I was not sure that you are
>NOT speaking for the vendor. Of course if a vendor wants to shout at his
>customers that's his own business.

it is not important what you know or not know amir.

>>I am not interested in customers. I am a customer of my own.
>>
>
>I know you are not interested, but other people are.

If you are interested, do it.

>>i see no problem in this relation. It was YOUR idea to use N-words. Please keep
>>this in mind for later discussions.


>I wrote this post as a moderator. I'm not debating or exchanging opinions with
>you here. I see a problem in your choice of images, and ask you to choose a more
>gentle style. Please keep this in mind if you want to continue being a member
>here.
>
>Amir

I have not used N-words. YOU related MY posts to posting in N-words.
I will not discuss with you amir.
If you want to throw me out. do it. but i will NOT discuss with you in the way
you do it.

your behaviour out of range. i do not accept your style.



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