Author: Christophe Theron
Date: 10:51:42 11/04/03
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On November 03, 2003 at 23:38:18, Jeremiah Penery wrote:
>On November 03, 2003 at 21:05:26, Christophe Theron wrote:
>
>>On November 03, 2003 at 14:57:34, Robert Hyatt wrote:
>>
>>>On November 03, 2003 at 13:40:05, Christophe Theron wrote:
>>>
>>>>On November 03, 2003 at 13:22:35, Mike Byrne wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>On November 03, 2003 at 09:26:22, Mridul Muralidharan wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recently I came to know that Vincent Diepeveen has been banned from CCC
>>>>>>without explaination.
>>>>>>Especially before , during and after an important event like world champs !
>>>>>>Is this true ? and if yes , why ?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Regards
>>>>>>Mridul
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Vincent has a one month suspension. He was told why he was suspended via email.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Noverber 30th , he will be able to post again - for those that want to mark
>>>>>their calendar.
>>>>>
>>>>>Membership to CCC is a privilige not a right. If you break the rules, your
>>>>>privilige might be taken away. Also, an FYI, the CCC moderators have an
>>>>>agreement that we do not take any action on suspensions/bannings unless all of
>>>>>us are in agreement. So any time there is any action, you should know the vote
>>>>>was 3-0. So some times we may appear to be slow in taking action, but on the
>>>>>other hand when we do take action - it's unaminous. That protects memebers
>>>>>somewhat against kneejerk reactions to posts.
>>>>>
>>>>>Michael Byrne
>>>>>Moderator
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Well done, but why has this been done behind the curtains?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Christophe
>>>
>>>
>>>How else would you do it? Do you want the moderators to discuss
>>>Vincent, his postings, their opinions, _all_ in public? That would
>>>not be a good way to operate. We vote on the moderators, and then we
>>>let them moderate. If we don't like the way they do their job, we vote
>>>for someone else next time...
>>
>>
>>
>>That's certainly not the way democracy works. As CCC is supposed to work like a
>>democracy, things like that should be done in the open.
>
>We elect moderators - representatives, if you will - to carry out what they
>think is in the best interest of the people they represent (those who elect
>them). If it were supposed to act like a democracy, then why have moderators at
>all? We should be voting on everything the moderators do.
>
>Nothing would ever get accomplished in such a system, which is why we do not use
>that system. CCC can best be called a representative government, in which it
>is not required for the government officials (moderators) to explain their every
>action to the people. If we don't like how they act, we elect new people when
>the term is up.
Are you living is a democracy or not?
We elect representatives, and they are accountable for what they do, so we can
decide to re-elect them or not.
That's why in a democracy the decisions taken by the people's representatives
are made public.
Christophe
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