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Subject: Re: Shirov Part Two

Author: Robert Hyatt

Date: 13:34:22 11/11/98

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On November 11, 1998 at 16:00:38, Howard Exner wrote:

>Typo on the header.
>
>3r2k1/p4ppp/2p5/Np6/7N/BP1n2PP/P1b3B1/6K1 b - - id id "Markowski - Shirov";
> bm b4;
>
>Here is the other position from the Chess Life Shirov article. His comments are:
>
>"Again the same story. Playing against the computer, White could be confident
>that 23 ... b4 would not be played."


this is all a waste of time to read and comment on.  Someone took several of
these "positions" and tried them on Crafty...  the results were posted on
r.g.c.c a few weeks ago...  a couple it got quickly, none took a day...  He is
grossly misinformed here...


>
>and later he states, "Maybe after some 10 years the program will find 23 ...b4"
>
>Well in this position Rebel in Default mode with Combination Off (as is Rebel's
>setting when playing games) it took 17:29 to play b4. True this is not within
>normal tournament time controls but who knows what would happen in a 40/2
>game. If Rebel was thinking on the opponents move and the opponent took
>10 minutes to move with a correct prediction by Rebel as to the opponents move
>then maybe it would be played. Also telling is how Rebel 10 came about playing
>b4. Up to the 12th ply Rebel likes the move c5 ( ply 12.00 at 5:46) during this
>time it does not pay much attention to the move b4 as it is 12.13 in the
>iteration. By the time it starts to think of b4 it is 16:38 on the clock and
>then shortly after it chooses b4 as best (17:29) and holds on to this move.
>Machine is a K6-233 with 60 MB hash in Dos.
>
>So if b4 ended up higher on the iteration list it looks as if Rebel
>quite possibly could have snared this one also in a tournament game.
>Again, I'll wager that more than a few programs will find b4 in under 5 minutes.

without a doubt...



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