Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 14:00:06 11/11/98
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On November 11, 1998 at 16:35:35, Don Dailey wrote: >On November 11, 1998 at 14:31:09, Ed Schröder wrote: > >>>>IMO you simply give a guy like Garry Kasparov a re-match out of >>>>respect. He asked for it so you give it to him. Shame on IBM! Note that's >>>>some different than shame on Deep Blue. They did a fantastic job. >> >>>>- Ed - >> >> >>>you really blew that response badly... based on one word: "respect". >>>Why would IBM have any "respect" for Kasparov now? He called them >>>cheaters at a press conference... Personally, my "respect" for Kasparov is >>>down to zero, and still falling. I'd certainly consider Karpov, whom I have a >>>*bunch* of respect for however... >> >>Sure Kasparov has a temper. He did badly. But that's not the point. I am >>pointing at IBM one of the biggest companies on earth. >> >>They made the match a fantastic spectacle. Even now we are still talking >>about the match all matches. They won and this shocked the chess world. >> >>It's against all chess etiquette not to honor the request of Kasparov for a >>revenge match. I find this quite a humiliating treatment for the current >>best chess player on earth. >> >>If Vishy Anand asks me for a re-match I say YES no matter if I am in >>the mood for it or not. I say YES and I will make sure it will happen. >>That is simply the price you have to pay when you have won. It's >>an obligation based on chess etiquette. >> >>If you play against such giants then take the etiquette into account. >>Anything else is showing no respect. In this light shame on IBM >>lacking respect to world's best chess player and therefore also >>a slap in the face to the whole chess community. IMO. >> >>About temper... Kasparov lost, Anand lost. Both by surprise. It wasn't >>expected. We all have seen the face of Kasparov on television when >>he lost. I have seen Anand's. It's their worst nightmare losing from a >>computer. >> >>So let them steam off. It means nothing! IBM knows. I know. It's no >>big deal. It's no excuse for IBM not to play again. >> >>- Ed - > >I have to second this comment. Respect is a funny word and does >not necessarily mean "admiration." Being the best player in the >world deserves respect. To me, respect is an acknowledgement of >something. It might be as simply as nodding to a stranger as he >passed by when he nods to you instead of ignoring him. But in >this case it comes across as brash and tactless to essentially >thumb your nose at him because you finally managed to barely >beat him a SINGLE time. > > >- Don I can't speak for IBM. But if that had been Cray Blitz, and we had won, I would not "thumb my nose because I barely managed to win." I would "thumb my nose because he accused me of being dishonest." That's about as bad an insult as can be levied against someone in a scientific endeavor... And it's a line you don't cross over without something of substance to back you up. And of course, this by the same player that picked up a piece, moved it, then when nobody looked picked it back up and put it on a *different* square... and denied it... and then was horrified to find that it was caught on a video camera... Nice fella, that Kasparov...
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