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Subject: Re: Try to solve very populated mate.

Author: leonid

Date: 16:00:08 11/05/03

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On November 05, 2003 at 18:30:13, John Merlino wrote:

>On November 05, 2003 at 14:22:08, leonid wrote:
>
>>Hi
>>
>>This next mate was not very quick with my solver, so try You to solve it:
>>
>>[D] 2R2R2/2Q2Q2/q1Q2Q1q/q1R2R1q/q1B2B1r/q1NQQN1q/q6q/qbnQKnbk w - -
>>
>>Since I don't know what is minimal number of moves for this position, please
>>give Your number even if Your program saw position only partially.
>>
>>Cheers,
>>Leonid.
>
>Chessmaster 9000, default personality on a P4-2.4, says Mate in 13:
>
>Time	Depth	Score	Positions	Moves
>0:01	1/3	3.52	340874		1.Nxh2+ Q6xc6 2.Qxg1+ Kxg1 3.Qfd4+
>					Kh1 4.Qxc6+ Qaxc6 5.Bd5+ Qcxd5
>					6.Qfxd5+ Qxd5 7.Qxd5+ Kg1 8.Rxh5
>					Rxh5 9.Q5xh5 Q6xh5 10.Rxh5
>0:13	1/4	3.57	2580625		1.Nxh2+ Q6xc6 2.Qcxc6+ Qhg2 3.Qxg2+
>					Qxg2 4.Qxg1+ Kxg1 5.Qdd4+ Kh1 6.Rxh5
>					Qxd1+ 7.Qxd1 Qxf6 8.Qxf6 Nxh2
>3:06	1/5	2.25	35892938	1.Nxh2+ Q6xc6 2.Qfxc6+ Qaxc6 3.Qxc6+
>					Qhg2 4.Qxg2+ Qxg2 5.Qxg1+ Kxg1
>					6.Qd4+ Kh1 7.Rxa5 Qxf7 8.R8xf7
>					Rxf4 9.Rxf4 Qxa5
>11:04	1/6	Mate13	136870160	1.Nxh2+ Q4xc6 2.Qxg1+ Kxg1 3.Qfd4+
>					Kh1 4.Qfd5+ Qxd5 5.Qxd5+ Kg1 6.Q5d4+
>					Kh1 7.Q4e4+ Kg1 8.Qdd4+ Ne3 9.Bxe3+
>					Q6xe3+ 10.Qexe3+ Qxe3+ 11.Qxe3+
>					Kh1 12.Rf1+ Kg2 13.Rg1#
>12:06	1/7	Mate13	150445998	1.Nxh2+ Q4xc6 2.Qxg1+ Kxg1 3.Qfd4+
>					Kh1 4.Qfd5+ Qxd5 5.Qxd5+ Kg1 6.Q5d4+
>					Kh1 7.Q4e4+ Kg1 8.Qdd4+ Ne3 9.Bxe3+
>					Q6xe3+ 10.Qexe3+ Qxe3+ 11.Qxe3+
>					Kh1 12.Rf1+ Kg2 13.Rg1#
>16:56	1/8	Mate13	215063448	1.Nxh2+ Q4xc6 2.Qxg1+ Kxg1 3.Qfd4+
>					Kh1 4.Qfd5+ Qxd5 5.Qxd5+ Kg1 6.Q5d4+
>					Kh1 7.Q4e4+ Kg1 8.Qdd4+ Ne3 9.Bxe3+
>					Q6xe3+ 10.Qexe3+ Qxe3+ 11.Qxe3+
>					Qf2+ 12.Qxf2+ Kh1 13.Qf1#

It is interesting that You say this for mistaken position. For the correct
position my program also find mate only in 13 but by selective. Your look like
to be going in some brute force mood, since it found three solution for 13.

I doubt very much that mine is able to see the same. On mine it was already
almost 14 minutes that it took verification of 9 moves by brute force. Only at
the night I expected to put 10 and 11 moves for verification. 12 moves is
absolutely out of reach for mine.

I will try Your position. My program do not care about 10 queens.

Cheers,
Leonid.

>jm



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