Author: Bob Bachman
Date: 19:50:16 11/05/03
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On November 05, 2003 at 20:58:31, Sally Weltrop wrote: >On November 05, 2003 at 18:37:24, Drexel,Michael wrote: > >>On November 05, 2003 at 17:24:27, stuart taylor wrote: >> >>>Why can't the real interests and passions of the chess (computer) world be given >>>more consideration, in having Kasparov play something which has already been top >>>for some time, and is clearly reported to be stronger at next release, such as >>>Shredder? >>> >>>Kasparov already played fritz recently (or was it Kramnik? same thing really) >>>and both Fritz and Junior achieved the disgusting result (for their rivals) of a >>>draw each in matches against the two top humans. >>> >>>Why do we need more of that now? >>> >>>All we want to see now is that Kasparov is ripped to shreds from software, and >>>that will make us completely sure that computers are better from then on, and >>>then we won't need any more such matches. So in order to achieve this, wouldn't >>>it be better to have the best possible program against him? >>> >>>Do we have to waste another few years to see what we want to see? Isn't it >>>public inconvenience? >>> >>>If now he either draws again, or wins by half a point, wouldn't it be more >>>meaningful (showing that Kasparov is not beatable by a machine quite yet) if the >>>program he plays against is as much as possible stronger (and different) from >>>the last programs which Kasparov and Kamnik drew with? >>> >>>S.Taylor >> >>All these matches are show events with little sportive value. >>X3D,Chessbase and Kasparov are interested in maximizing the profit, therefore >>all those decisions. >> >>Thats business... >> >>Btw, even a 4-0 result for Fritz wouldn't make us completely sure that computers >>are better from then on. >>This is pure nonsense. > >I totally agree with u Mike. It's all balogna! It'll only mean something once >they have a match where GK has to fight for every game to win some money. They >are so consumed in their own PR and BS that they don't see that the whole thing >means poop to anyone with brains and as you stated above it's meaningless for >chess vs computer endeavors. >> >>Michael People I do not get it. If it is all a conspiracy simply do not watch it, or try to make statements about results of various games or the match. After all the fix is in. If the corporatitons have the fix in, tell me the result now and the reason for it before the match. I am sorry it is hard for me to think of Chessbase as the corporation manipulating international chess results, please! Time for an analogy. Do you watch any professional sports? How many athletes (except golfers and tennis players) are paid purely by results. I therefore conclude by the logic of this thread that all sports other than tennis and golf are fixed. Stop watching football, ice hockey, soccer etc because it is all manipulated. Do these kinds of ideas actually occur in other sports. I think not. We are a most suspicious lot. Bob
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