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Subject: Re: Why can't Kasparov play Shredder 7.04 or 8.0?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 05:46:31 11/06/03

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On November 05, 2003 at 17:24:27, stuart taylor wrote:

>Why can't the real interests and passions of the chess (computer) world be given
>more consideration, in having Kasparov play something which has already been top
>for some time, and is clearly reported to be stronger at next release, such as
>Shredder?

Ah yeah, right....there is _no_ significant difference.
>
>Kasparov already played fritz recently (or was it Kramnik? same thing really)
>and both Fritz and Junior achieved the disgusting result (for their rivals) of a
>draw each in matches against the two top humans.

Kramnik played Fritz, and the bad result is Kramnik dominated the machine but
failed to win! Shredder would have done no better.
>
>Why do we need more of that now?
>
>All we want to see now is that Kasparov is ripped to shreds from software, and
>that will make us completely sure that computers are better from then on, and
>then we won't need any more such matches. So in order to achieve this, wouldn't
>it be better to have the best possible program against him?

That won't happen, no matter what you throw at Kasparov, Shredder has no magical
powers!
>
>Do we have to waste another few years to see what we want to see? Isn't it
>public inconvenience?

ROTFL! You must believe in the "Computer Chess Fairy"!
>
>If now he either draws again, or wins by half a point, wouldn't it be more
>meaningful (showing that Kasparov is not beatable by a machine quite yet) if the
>program he plays against is as much as possible stronger (and different) from
>the last programs which Kasparov and Kamnik drew with?
>
>S.Taylor

Shredder isn't anything special, relative to other programmes, even if with a
whopping 20 point difference:))


SSDF is NOT a scientific measuring stick, it's not meant to be.

Actually a 100 ELO difference by a margin of 50> or 50< is nearly meaningless
with comuters, and I dare say with humans as well.

Terry



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