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Subject: Re: What do you do in your qsearch?

Author: José Carlos

Date: 09:12:34 11/06/03

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On November 06, 2003 at 11:40:53, Koundinya Veluri wrote:

>On November 06, 2003 at 04:51:38, José Carlos wrote:
>
>>  This position is easy, but interesting:
>>
>>[D]r2qk2r/pp3ppp/2pbpn2/4Nb2/PnBP2P1/2N1P3/1P3P1P/R1BQ1RK1 b kq g3 0 1
>>
>>  Black plays Ng4 with big advantage.
>>  Anubis (complex qsearch) finds it in iteration 8, while Averno (simple
>>qsearch) needs 12. Studying what the program was searching in qsearch in this
>>position has been very interesting for me.
>>  How does your program here?
>
>King of Kings finds it at ply 2. It just does the usual checks in qsearch with
>some see pruning, nothing special. I think the eval might be helping here. My
>eval is probably biased for Nxg4.
>
> 1    -294        3              18      a6 gxf5
> 1    -293        4              36 [+=] g6 gxf5 gxf5
> 1    -272        4              55      g6 gxf5 gxf5
> 1    -271        4             119 [+=] b5 gxf5 bxc4 fxe6
> 1     -74        4             167      b5 gxf5 bxc4 fxe6
> 1     -73        4             322 [+=] Bxe5 dxe5
> 1      57        4             332      Bxe5 gxf5
> 1      57        4             380      Bxe5 gxf5
> 2       5        4             735      Bxe5 gxf5 Bd6 fxe6
> 2       6        6             995 [+=] Nxg4 Nxg4
> 2     108        6            1096      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4
> 2     108        6            1587      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4


  Do you evaluate this position (after Qh4) as better for black inspite of the
material difference or are there any "hidden" moves the program has searched but
not shown in the PV?
  If you evaluate there, then you have an incredibly speculative eval, do you?

  José C.



> 3     131        6            2333      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3
> 3     131        7            4154      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3
> 4     131        7            6255      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3
> 4     131        9            9380      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3
> 5     108       11           14260      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5
> 5     108       14           23996      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5
> 6     132       18           37340      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Nc2 Ra2 Qxh3
> 6     132       23           55920      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Nc2 Ra2 Qxh3
> 7     129       34           88024      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 Nf3 Rd8
> 7     129       53          145694      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 Nf3 Rd8
> 8     125       81          230626      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 Nf3 Bg4
>                                         Ne4
> 8     125      153          455002      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 Nf3 Bg4
>                                         Ne4
> 9     135      206          620427      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 Nf3 Bg4
>                                         Be2 Kf7
> 9     135      300          895669      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 Nf3 Bg4
>                                         Be2 Kf7
>10     117      495         1496423      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 Qh4 Be2 f6
>                                         e4 Bxe4 Nxe4 Qxe4
>10     117     1000         3011320      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 Qh4 Be2 f6
>                                         e4 Bxe4 Nxe4 Qxe4
>11     164     1353         4154934      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 e4 fxe5
>                                         exf5 exd4 f4 e5 Ne4
>11     164     1664         5117537      Nxg4 Nxg4 Qh4 h3 Qxh3 Ne5 f6 e4 fxe5
>                                         exf5 exd4 f4 e5 Ne4
>
>Regards,
>Koundinya



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