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Subject: Re: Why can't Kasparov play Shredder 7.04 or 8.0?

Author: Terry McCracken

Date: 19:38:32 11/06/03

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On November 06, 2003 at 19:29:36, Jim Bond wrote:

>On November 05, 2003 at 18:33:14, Amir Ban wrote:
>
>>On November 05, 2003 at 17:24:27, stuart taylor wrote:
>>
>>>Why can't the real interests and passions of the chess (computer) world be given
>>>more consideration, in having Kasparov play something which has already been top
>>>for some time, and is clearly reported to be stronger at next release, such as
>>>Shredder?
>>>
>>>Kasparov already played fritz recently (or was it Kramnik? same thing really)
>>>and both Fritz and Junior achieved the disgusting result (for their rivals) of a
>>>draw each in matches against the two top humans.
>>>
>>>Why do we need more of that now?
>>>
>>>All we want to see now is that Kasparov is ripped to shreds from software, and
>>>that will make us completely sure that computers are better from then on, and
>>>then we won't need any more such matches. So in order to achieve this, wouldn't
>>>it be better to have the best possible program against him?
>>>
>>>Do we have to waste another few years to see what we want to see? Isn't it
>>>public inconvenience?
>>>
>>>If now he either draws again, or wins by half a point, wouldn't it be more
>>>meaningful (showing that Kasparov is not beatable by a machine quite yet) if the
>>>program he plays against is as much as possible stronger (and different) from
>>>the last programs which Kasparov and Kamnik drew with?
>>>
>>>S.Taylor
>>
>>Stuart, why is this match necessary ?
>>
>>Let's see:
>>
>>Shredder is proven to be the strongest program.
>>
>>THEREFORE
>>
>>It is known that Shredder will kill Kasparov.
>>
>>THEREFORE
>>
>>No Shredder match is necessary.
>>
>>So what's wrong with letting us weaker guys play ?
>>
>>Amir
>
>
>Because it proves that there is a bias toward Shredder.  There is a marketing
>strategy for weaker computer chess programs.  It shows that the stronger do not
>get a chance to show for itself due monetary reasons.  Your commercial program
>is not that strong after all.
>Jim

Bullshit!



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