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Subject: Re: trouble with hiarcs 9 and 6 men tablebase

Author: Javier Ros Padilla

Date: 08:27:29 11/07/03

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On November 07, 2003 at 02:59:45, Vincent Lejeune wrote:

>i downloaded the TB krppkr yesterday
>
>I try to analyse with it with hiarcs 9 and it don't work
>
>If it'd work, i'd get all the mate value fot this position :
>[d]8/8/2r3k1/8/5KP1/7R/6P1/8 w - - 0 7
>
>Analysis by Hiarcs 9:
>
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3
>  +-  (1.91)   Profondeur: 1/6   00:00:00
>7.Tf3
>  +-  (1.99)   Profondeur: 1/6   00:00:00
>7.Tf3 Tc4+
>  +-  (1.99)   Profondeur: 1/6   00:00:00
>7.Tf3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3
>  +-  (1.76)   Profondeur: 2/7   00:00:00
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3
>  +-  (1.91)   Profondeur: 2/8   00:00:00
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3
>  +-  (1.91)   Profondeur: 2/8   00:00:00
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3
>  +-  (1.91)   Profondeur: 3/8   00:00:00
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc3+ 9.Rh4
>  +-  (2.03)   Profondeur: 4/9   00:00:00
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Rg7
>  +-  (2.04)   Profondeur: 5/11   00:00:00  1kN, tb=22
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Td4 9.Te5
>  +-  (2.01)   Profondeur: 6/13   00:00:00  3kN, tb=24
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc3+ 9.Rh4 Tc2 10.Tg5+ Rh7 11.Rg3
>  +-  (2.04)   Profondeur: 7/15   00:00:00  8kN, tb=30
>7.Th5 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc3+ 9.Rh4 Tc2 10.Rg3 Tc4
>  +-  (2.01)   Profondeur: 8/16   00:00:00  13kN, tb=35
>7.Td3 Tc4+
>  +-  (2.02)   Profondeur: 8/17   00:00:00  20kN, tb=61
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3
>  +-  (2.02)   Profondeur: 8/17   00:00:00  20kN, tb=65
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Rg5 9.Td5+ Rf6 10.Rh4 Tc2 11.Rh3
>  +-  (2.10)   Profondeur: 9/18   00:00:00  48kN, tb=187
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Rg5 9.Td5+ Rf6 10.Td6+ Rg5
>  +-  (2.10)   Profondeur: 10/21   00:00:00  86kN, tb=318
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc2 9.Td6+ Rg5 10.Td5+ Rf6 11.Tf5+
>  +-  (2.11)   Profondeur: 11/23   00:00:00  251kN, tb=998
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Td5 Tb1 10.Tc5 Td1 11.Th5 Te1 12.Tb5 Te2
>  +-  (2.08)   Profondeur: 12/25   00:00:01  409kN, tb=1554
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Td8 Rg5
>  +-  (2.09)   Profondeur: 13/27   00:00:01  765kN, tb=3101
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Td8 Rf6 10.Tf8+
>  +-  (2.09)   Profondeur: 14/29   00:00:02  1176kN, tb=4923
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Td8 Rf6 10.Tf8+ Rg6 11.Tg8+ Rh7 12.Tb8 Rg6 13.Tb6+
>  +-  (2.09)   Profondeur: 15/30   00:00:03  1721kN, tb=7749
>7.Td3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Td8 Tb1 10.Tg8+ Rh6 11.g5+ Rh5 12.g6 Tb4
>  +-  (2.08)   Profondeur: 16/33   00:00:06  3169kN, tb=15788
>7.Tb3 Tc4+
>  +-  (2.09)   Profondeur: 16/36   00:00:09  4591kN, tb=22645
>7.Tb3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc2 9.Rh3
>  +-  (2.09)   Profondeur: 16/36   00:00:09  4679kN, tb=23038
>7.Tb3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Tb6+ Rg5 10.Tb5+ Rg6
>  +-  (2.08)   Profondeur: 17/37   00:00:12  6410kN, tb=32083
>7.Tb3 Tc4+ 8.Rg3 Tc1 9.Tb6+ Rg5 10.Tb5+ Rg6 11.Tb8 Td1
>  +-  (2.08)   Profondeur: 18/38   00:00:23  11929kN, tb=65510


HIARCS 9 has no problem with this position, if you move 1.Te3 the analysis is

Nueva partida
8/8/2r3k1/8/5KP1/4R3/6P1/8 b - - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 9:

1...Td6
  =  (0.02)   Profundidad: 1   00:00:00

(jr, ma 07.11.2003)

so that, HIARCS 9 see that the position is drawn and play with the engine
expecting the adversary error. To see that it is true you can put the g2 pawn
in a5 and analyze again:

Nueva partida
[d]8/8/2r3k1/P7/5KP1/7R/8/8 w - - 0 1

Analysis by Hiarcs 9:

1.Ta3
  +-  (#28)   Profundidad: 1   00:00:00

(jr, ma 07.11.2003)

      Javier Ros






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