Author: Joe T. Pangilinan
Date: 18:45:16 11/11/98
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On November 11, 1998 at 19:36:58, Eric Adolph wrote: >I put the position in Chessmaster6000, put the time contol on 40 moves in 120 >minutes, and CM played Rxg7+ in less than a second and anncouned mate in 14. >Maybe Shirov's plays his programs with them on an easy level? ;-) > Reynolds Takata is right when he said that" CM6000 is a monster and the strongest combinatively, and CM6000 has all other programs beat when it comes to the majority of combinations." Another hurrah for us CM6000 fans! >> >>6r1/2rp1kpp/2qQp3/p3Pp1P/1pP2P2/1P2KP2/P5R1/6R1 w - - id "Shirov - Krasenkov"; >>bm Rxg7; >> >>This is a possible variation in the game and Shirov's comments are, >> >>"White would have a forced mate in 14 moves! Don't try to put this particular >>position on Fritz5 or any other program, as it would never suggest 33. Rxg7+! >>as the stongest move!" >> >>I looked at the diagram and thought to myself I'll bet that Rebel 10 >>would have a good shot at this as it seems to have a powerfull mate finder. >>Sure enough after 2:34 it plays Rxg7 with an ever increasing eval. That on >>an AMD K-6 233 in dos with 60 mb hash. >> >>So the moral of the story is not to generalize from one computer program to the >>next. Probably safer to say that "some computer programs will not solve >>such and such a position". My take is that the programs are as unique as the >>programmers who work on them. I think they are entitled that rather than >>lumping them all together. >> >>So Ed and other programmers whose program can solve this in a tournament time >>setting can email GM Shirov with the news that Fritz5 (or any single program) >>does not represent the entire pack. I'm sure some other programs will play >>Rxg7 also but I only own Rebel 10 at present so cannot verify this. What >>does the rest of the pack play? >> >>Just a small note that the point of my sharing this is not to belittle >>Fritz's play - it makes great moves in many different positions. It is more >>a sharing that all programs are unique in their strengths and weaknesses >>and that one program cannot possibly be singled out as representative of >>the whole. It would be as faulty to say, "Rebel 10 finds this position >>relatively quickly so the computer programs of today are routinely find >>such difficult moves." >> >>Enjoy the position. By the way, I'll enter in the other positional >>epd that Shirov was reffering to in a follow-up.
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