Author: Eelco de Groot
Date: 03:47:08 11/09/03
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On November 08, 2003 at 18:22:02, Eelco de Groot wrote: >On November 07, 2003 at 16:42:53, David Dahlem wrote: > >>On November 07, 2003 at 15:19:52, Eelco de Groot wrote: >> >>>On November 07, 2003 at 15:08:34, Eelco de Groot wrote: >>> >>>>Old Rebel Century 2.0 plays 9.Bd2. Rebel says he's out of book but maybe if I >>>>entered the position with the opening moves he would have the position >>>>somewhere? >>>>Was it something like this? >>>> >>>>1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.a3 Bxc3+ 5.bxc3 Ne7 >>>>6.Nf3 b6 7 7.exd5 Nxd5 8.Bc4 Bb7 * >>>> >>> >>>Sorry, that does not correspond with your position as the d-pawn is now still on >>>d2 and you gave a position with the pawn on d3. But otherwise I can't see how to >>>get there in just 8 moves... >>> >>This line will get there in 8 moves. :-) >> >>1. Nc3 Nf6 2. Nf3 b6 3. a3 Bb7 4. e4 d5 5. Bc4 e6 6. d3 Bb4 7. exd5 Bxc3+ 8. >>bxc3 Nxd5 >> >>Dave > >I like especially White's fifth move Dave! > >Eventually my guess was something along > >1.e4 e6 2.Nf3 b6 3.Nc3 Bb4 4.a3 Bxc3 5.bxc3 Ne7 >6.Bc4 d5 7.exd5 Nxd5 8.d3 Bb7 * > >I finally got "debutant" Ruffian 1.0.5 to work in Chesspartner's Winboard >interface, at least in analysis mode now it goes beyond level 1, I'm not sure >yet if I can get all the CP timelevels to work too or what commands I have to >put in ENGINEEXT.INI for that. > >Don't know much about this Winboard stuff yet, but you sure have much choice of >different programs to try and compare, and new ones almost every day it seems! > >For analysis or to play against there is Crafty, Comet, El Chinito, Ruffian, >Tao, Ant, Queen, Yace Kaissa, to name just a few I know by name but there are >many more. links for instance on http://wbec-ridderkerk.nl/ by Leo Dijksman. >Impressive site by the way! > >Ruffian also finds Bg5 attractive, just like Deep Fritz. Can't be all bad then >but a human player would not soon go for it. I think it has something to do with >Vincent's famous tactical >barrier or something :) No idea really but some programs just think the Queen is >placed worse ,-from Black's perspective-, on d6 than on d8 I suppose. > >I like the long lines Ruffian gives and the branching factor seems to be good >too, considering this was only on a 500 MHZ Celeron with 32 Mb for hashtables. > >[d]rn1qk2r/pbp2ppp/1p2p3/3n4/2B5/P1PP1N2/2P2PPP/R1BQK2R w KQkq - 0 1 > >Ruffian 1.0.5: > >00:00:00.1 -0,05 1 5 Bxd5 Bxd5 >00:00:00.1 0,42 1 33 Bb2 >00:00:00.1 0,48 1 34 Bd2 >00:00:00.1 0,02 2 170 Bd2 O-O >00:00:00.1 0,29 2 992 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O >00:00:00.2 0,49 2 1105 Bg5 f6 >00:00:00.2 0,31 3 2758 Bg5 Nxc3 Bxd8 Nxd1 Bxc7 Bxf3 gxf3 >00:00:00.2 0,43 3 3470 Bd2 Ba6 Bb3 >00:00:00.2 -0,12 4 6801 Bd2 Qf6 d4 O-O >00:00:00.2 0,08 4 10229 Bg5 f6 Bxd5 Bxd5 Bf4 >00:00:00.2 0,14 4 13488 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O O-O Bf4 >00:00:00.2 -0,05 5 22840 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O Qf6 Nd4 O-O >00:00:00.2 0,39 5 27595 Bd2 O-O O-O Nd7 Rb1 >00:00:00.3 0,26 6 58541 Bd2 O-O O-O Ba6 Bxa6 Nxa6 Rb1 >00:00:00.7 0,25 7 164232 Bd2 Qf6 d4 Ba6 Bxa6 Nxa6 Qe2 Nb8 >00:00:01.6 0,40 7 388241 O-O O-O Bg5 f6 Bd2 Nd7 Re1 >00:00:02.2 0,05 8 517924 O-O >00:00:02.6 0,04 8 655955 O-O Qf6 Bg5 Qxc3 Bd2 Qb2 Bxd5 exd5 Re1+ Kf8 >00:00:03.3 0,30 8 815480 Bd2 O-O O-O Ba6 Bxa6 Nxa6 c4 Nf6 d4 >00:00:06.2 0,17 9 1574334 Bd2 Qf6 Nd4 Nc6 Bb5 e5 c4 Nc3 Bxc3 exd4 >00:00:10.4 0,30 9 2702521 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Ba6 Bb3 Nc6 Re1 >00:00:13.4 0,23 10 3557829 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Ba6 Bb3 Nc6 Re1 Rad8 >00:00:26.9 0,25 11 7111822 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nd7 Re1 Nf4 Bb5 c6 Bc4 >00:00:49.1 0,21 12 13213247 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Ba6 Bb3 Nc6 c4 Nf4 Re1 Rad8 >00:02:12.8 0,20 13 35416739 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nd7 Re1 N5f6 Nd4 Bd5 Nb5 Qc5 Be3 >00:05:13.6 0,20 14 79969470 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nc6 d4 Na5 Bb5 Nf4 Re1 a6 Bd3 >Nxd3 cxd3 >00:12:37.2 0,13 15 198597758 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nc6 d4 Na5 Bb5 a6 Bd3 Nf4 Re1 >00:35:44.7 0,14 16 571225857 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nc6 d4 Na5 Bb5 a6 Bd3 Nf4 Re1 >Bd5 a4 Nxd3 cxd3 >01:27:15.2 0,10 17 1383127026 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nc6 d4 Na5 Bb5 a6 Bd3 Nf4 Re1 >Bd5 Bxf4 Qxf4 Qd2 Qxd2 Nxd2 >04:07:32.5 0,10 18 -381674124 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nc6 Re1 Nf6 Bb3 Na5 Ba4 Bc6 >Bxc6 Nxc6 c4 Rfd8 Bc3 Qe7 d4 > > Eelco Rebel Personality Betazoid 5srg3 goes to a minus evaluation at 17 ply but before that also chooses Bg5. (Unfortunately I don't know if it would switch to 9.Bd2 now. Rebel was pondering this move for about two hours at 17 ply when I turned on the monitor. I just wanted to check the messageboards, knowing it might clash with Rebel; Windows freezes, Ctrl-Alt-Del works after some time and I can end ChessPartner which unfreezes Windows 98 again. Just testing if that happens every time, hoping it can help with debugging.) 00:00:07.1 0,03 1 13 Bxd5 Bxd5 00:00:07.1 0,11 1 20 Bb2 00:00:07.1 0,19 1 55 Bg5 Nxc3 Bxd8 Nxd1 Bxc7 00:00:07.2 0,27 2 329 Bg5 Nxc3 Bxd8 Nxd1 Bxc7 00:00:07.4 0,27 3 898 Bg5 Nxc3 Bxd8 Nxd1 00:00:07.9 0,34 4 4415 Bg5 f6 Bb5+ Nc6 00:00:08.7 0,14 5 9969 Bg5 f6 Bd2 O-O O-O 00:00:08.8 0,15 5 15335 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O Qf6 Bb2 00:00:09.1 0,02 6 37701 Bxd5 Bxd5 Bg5 f6 Be3 O-O Nd4 00:00:09.3 0,07 6 48281 Bg5 f6 Bd2 c5 Bb5+ Nc6 00:00:10.0 0,10 7 117822 Bg5 f6 Bd2 c5 O-O O-O Re1 00:00:10.7 0,14 7 200356 O-O Nxc3 Qe1 Nd5 Bg5 Ne7 Ne5 00:00:11.4 0,01 8 271718 O-O Nxc3 Qe1 Nd5 Bg5 Ne7 Ne5 Nd7 Bb5 00:00:12.3 0,21 8 388335 Bg5 Qd6 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O f6 c4 fxg5 cxd5 Qxd5 00:00:15.3 0,20 9 812003 Bg5 Qd6 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O O-O c4 Bc6 d4 Nd7 00:00:23.4 0,09 10 1973398 Bg5 Qd6 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O O-O c4 Bc6 d4 Nd7 c3 Rae8 00:00:52.7 0,14 11 6435215 Bg5 Qd6 Bxd5 Qxd5 O-O 00:02:06.7 0,06 12 18204488 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 Nd7 O-O O-O Re1 Rac8 Bxd5 00:03:41.0 0,07 12 33203293 Bd2 Qf6 d4 Nf4 O-O Nh3+ Kh1 Bxf3 Qxf3 Qxf3 00:07:17.5 0,05 13 68429558 Bd2 Qf6 d4 Nf4 Bxf4 Qxf4 Bb5+ Kd8 Be2 Ke7 00:08:42.8 0,10 13 82559162 Bg5 Qd6 Bxd5 Bxd5 O-O O-O c4 Bb7 00:17:55.9 0,07 14 171295161 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 Nd7 O-O O-O 00:42:40.9 0,06 15 416185468 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 Nd7 O-O O-O 02:15:49.1 0,04 16 1291516657 Bg5 Qd6 Bd2 O-O O-O Nd7 06:56:41.9 -0,01 17 -295385178 Bg5 Qd6 Bxd5 Qxd5
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