Author: Robert Hyatt
Date: 19:02:16 11/11/98
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On November 11, 1998 at 20:16:27, Bruce Moreland wrote: > >On November 11, 1998 at 11:45:13, Amir Ban wrote: > >>On November 11, 1998 at 09:58:13, Robert Hyatt wrote: > >>>1. DB didn't lose to fritz. A processor two versions prior to the final DB >>>lost one game to Fritz, in Hong Kong. Not Deep Blue v1, not Deep Blue v2, >>>but deep thought hardware running the eventual deep blue software on the >>>SP machine. This was called "DB prototype". You know that. I know that. >>>Most *everyone* knows that. Yet Shay writes "Deep Blue lost to ..." That is >>>*wrong*. More on the "dishonest" word in a moment... >>> >> >>What a ridiculous argument. Then let me point out that it was not Deep Blue but >>DEEPER Blue that beat Kasparov. How can you be so DISHONEST as to say that Deep >>Blue beat Kasparov, when it was Deeper ? > >Having said that neither of you has gotten the name right (it was neither "Deep >Blue" nor "Deep Blue Prototype", it was "Deep Thought II"), I don't think it >matters what they called it. > >The version of Ferret that played in that tournament ran on a machine that's >like 5x slower than the one it runs on now, it didn't know what a bad bishop >was, it used null move R=1 instead of R=2, it didn't really think on the >opponent's time, and it was out of book after 1. e4 e5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Bb5 a6 4. >Ba4 Nf6 5. O-O Nxe4. > >It was still me though, and I'm still responsible for it, and bringing up the >point that Fritz beat this program at that event (my program shares this >distinction with Deep Whatever) has about the same amount of relevance to what >may have come after, meaning, who cares how much really? > >That article is a hatchet job, Amir. And Bob's over-stubborn in the other >direction, too. > >bruce I'm only "over-stubborn" from the perspective that I want to see the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth. These stupid innuendoes, implied actions, and misleading statements are enough to torque anybody. But the part about "avoiding other computers" was simply too much to sit idly by and read. It was outright stupid to write that, and to post a copy of it here. I fail to see any reason at all for such an obvious attack on guys that have done a lot for computer chess... particularly from someone that hasn't taken the time to see what they are doing, nor played against them, etc...
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