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Subject: Re: maybe I have wrong Chest settings, not sure

Author: George Tsavdaris

Date: 11:09:27 11/09/03

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On November 09, 2003 at 13:58:58, F. Huber wrote:

>On November 09, 2003 at 12:22:57, K. Burcham wrote:
>
>>
>>
>>Shredder 7        mate in   4 seconds
>>Ruffian 1.0.5     mate in   6 seconds
>>Chess Tiger 14.0  mate in  16 seconds
>>ChestUCI Ver.2.7  mate in 349 seconds
>>
>>  [D] 3k2r1/1Pr4p/2bbpPP1/2pp3P/1NP2N1r/QnB5/4B3/3RK1R1 w - -
>>
>>Shredder 7
>>2158mhz AMD
>>192 hash
>>
>>  8/29	 0:00 	+39.22	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Bxf4 3.Nxc6 Bg3+ 4.Rxg3 Rh1+ 5.Bf1 hxg6
>>6.Ne5+ Kd6 7.Qxb3 Rxh5 8.cxd5 exd5 (393.569) 412.9
>>  9/29	 0:02 	+39.47++	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Rxf4 3.cxd5 exd5 4.Nxc6 hxg6 5.Nb8+
>>(1.006.911) 466.8
>>  9/29	 0:02 	+39.97++	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Rxf4 3.cxd5 exd5 4.Nxc6 Rxc6 5.Qa7+ Bc7
>>6.Rxd5+ Rd6 7.Bb5+ (1.049.190) 463.0
>>  9/36	 0:04 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ Ke6 10.g8Q+ (1.911.381) 463.3
>> 10/10	 0:04 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ Ke6 10.g8Q+ (2.096.658) 467.4
>> 11/11	 0:05 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (2.746.841) 461.4
>> 12/31	 0:07 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (3.638.002) 471.3
>> 13/19	 0:08 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (3.788.690) 472.6
>> 14/35	 0:10 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 e5 3.Nxc6 Kxc6 4.Qxd5+ Kb6 5.Qxb3+ Ka6
>>(4.875.519) 474.1
>> 15/25	 0:11 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (5.392.770) 487.4
>> 16/28	 0:11 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (5.947.981) 500.2
>> 17/20	 0:13 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (6.993.039) 527.7
>> 18/28	 0:17 	  +M12	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Ke7 5.Nxc6+ Kf6
>>6.Bxd4+ e5 7.Nxd5+ Kf5 8.f8Q+ Bxf8 9.g7+ (9.754.062) 573.2
>> 19/24	 0:24 	  +M11	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Ke8 4.f7+ Kd8 5.Nxc6+ Nxc6
>>6.Nxe6+ Kc8 7.f8R+ Kb7 8.Qa8+ (15.055.097) 613.6
>> 20/28	 0:40 	  +M9 	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Nxc6 Nc2+ 4.Kd2 Bxf4+ 5.Kxc2 Rc8
>>6.Qxh7+ Kd6 7.Qaa7 (26.726.347) 654.0
>>best move: b7-b8Q time: 1:10.063 min  n/s: 681.457  CPU 98.4%  nodes: 47.744.972
>>
>>
>>Ruffian 1.0.5
>>2158 mhz AMD
>>192 hash
>>
>>  7/24	 0:00 	+28.70	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Bxf4 3.gxh7 Bg3+ 4.Rxg3 Rh1+ 5.Bf1 Rxf1+
>>6.Kxf1 Nd2+ 7.Rxd2 cxb4 (980.307) 1307.0
>>  8/24	 0:01 	+29.05++	1.b8Q+ (2.446.084) 1374.2
>>  8/25	 0:03 	+42.56	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.gxh7 Bf8 4.Qf7+ Kd6 5.Qxf8+ Ke5
>>6.Bxd4+ cxd4 7.Ng6+ Kf5 8.Nxh4+ Kf4 9.h8Q dxc4 (5.006.066) 1455.2
>>  9/28	 0:05 	+42.91++	1.b8Q+ (9.217.077) 1586.4
>>  9/28	 0:06 	  +M9 	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.gxh7 Bf8 4.Qf7+ Kd6 5.Qxf8+ Ke5
>>6.Bxd4+ cxd4 7.Ng6+ Kf5 8.Qf3+ Rf4 9.Qxf4+ (10.480.680) 1597.6
>> 10/28	 0:15 	  +M9 	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.gxh7 Nc2+ 4.Nxc2 Rg4 5.Qxe6+ Kd8
>>6.h8Q+ Rg8 7.Qxd6+ Kc8 8.Rxg8+ Be8 9.Qa8+ (25.780.863) 1681.7
>> 11/28	 0:45 	  +M9 	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.gxh7 Nc2+ 4.Nxc2 Rg4 5.Qxe6+ Kd8
>>6.h8Q+ Rg8 7.Qxd6+ Kc8 8.Rxg8+ Be8 9.Qa8+ (79.486.890) 1729.1
>> 12/28	 2:09 	  +M8 	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qf7+ Kc8 4.Qa6+ Rb7 5.Nxc6 Nc2+
>>6.Kd2 Bxf4+ 7.Kxc2 dxc4 8.Qfxb7+ (226.213.948) 1749.7
>>best move: b7-b8Q time: 2:29.984 min  n/s: 1.755.567  CPU 98.0%  nodes:
>>263.300.004
>>
>>
>>Chess Tiger 14.0:
>>
>>1.b8Q+
>>  +-  (32.06)   Depth: 9   00:00:02  2021kN
>>1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qxh7+ Kc8 4.g7 Rxg7 5.fxg7 Nf3+ 6.Bxf3
>>  +-  (38.12)   Depth: 9   00:00:04  3066kN
>>1.b8Q+
>>  +-  (39.02)   Depth: 10   00:00:11  8314kN
>>1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Nxc6 Nc2+ 4.Kd2 Bxf4+ 5.Kxc2 Rxc6 6.Qxh7+ Kc8 7.Qa8+ Bb8
>>8.Qab7+ Kd8
>>  +-  (#9)   Depth: 10   00:00:16  11488kN
>>1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Nxc6 Nc2+ 4.Kd2
>>  +-  (#9)   Depth: 11   00:00:33  23865kN
>>
>>
>>
>>ChestUCI Ver.2.7
>>Franz Huber
>>CPU: 2158mhzAMD
>>FEN: 3k2r1/1Pr4p/2bbpPP1/2pp3P/1NP2N1r/QnB5/4B3/3RK1R1 w - -
>>Search for Mate in 12 ...  (Hash=192MB)
>>Mate in 8 found !  (1 Solution in 05:49)
>>  8/08	 5:49 	  +M8 	1.b8Q+ Kd7 2.Qxg8 Nd4 3.Qf7+ Be7 4.Qxe7+ Kc8 5.Qa6+ Rb7
>>6.Nxc6 Nc2+ 7.Kd2 Na1 8.Qexb7+ 242.8
>>best move: b7-b8Q time: 5:49.937 min  n/s: 242.843  nodes: 84.884.919
>
>Hi,
>
>no, there´s nothing wrong with your Chest settings, but I´m really
>wondering what you are comparing here (?).
>
>Looking at your text _I_ see the following:
>
>Shredder 7        ONLY a mate in 9 in   40 seconds (not the shortest!)
>Ruffian 1.0.5          a mate in 8 in  129 seconds (the shortest?, the only?)
>Chess Tiger 14.0  ONLY a mate in 9 in   16 seconds (not the shortest!)
>ChestUCI Ver.2.7  the shortest and only mate in 9 in 349 seconds

You mean of course mate in 8 in 349 seconds.

>
>I hope you understand, what I want to say with it:
>You are comparing absolutely different things -
>a mate solver searches for the _shortest_ mate and for _all_ solutions,
>where a normal chess engines finds _any_ mate (if at all).
>So the ´solutions´ of Shredder7 and CT14 are not really ones;
>Ruffians solution is ok, but you can´t be sure if this is the shortest
>(and the only) one - and so the time difference between Ruffian and Chest
>isn´t really dramatically.
>
>Btw., one way to eventually solve this problem faster could be to increase
>the hash size, but only if the hash usage (in ChestUCI) is growing up
>to 100% (and if you have more RAM, of course).
>
>Best regards,
>Franz.



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